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Beaver valley stone, Leona stone, 404 stone.

I have used them all, they are all good, depending on what I need and where I am determined where I go.

Where are you in York region?
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Premium wrote: Thank you!

I found 404 Stone is able to show me picture and prices! This is so much helpful! Thanks again!

https://404stone.com/collections/walls-and-coping
Yeah, based on your area I would say either 404 or Leona, they are basically across the street from each other on Stouffville just east of 404, well woodbine.

Leona has permacon, 404 has techo Bloc, probably some other product differences.

Beaver valley stone is down in Markham, still pretty close.
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Did you end up buying the blocks? How much did they cost you?
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As laid out by others ...
There are 2 routes you can go
Via a place that specializes in stone
Or a Big Box Store (Lowe’s, Rona, Home Depot etc)

The stone places are gonna have a wider assortment
And more options that will work easier for whatever the application / design

The important thing here is if this is a DIY Project is that you get the foundation / footings right
With site prep
Ya need to dig down
Put Down crushed stone
Tamp it down ... make sure it’s level
And only then begin on the actual wall
If you are using these to build planters
You’ll also need to invest in landscape fabric ... and good quality soil

Not a cheap job at all
You’ll save some DIYing
But laying stone can be BACK BREAKING work

It’s one of those things I put in the ... just because you can
Doesn’t necessarily mean you should category

Something I leave to the experts ... young guys to do
With young backs, strong arms, and good knees / joints
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PointsHubby wrote: As laid out by others ...
There are 2 routes you can go
Via a place that specializes in stone
Or a Big Box Store (Lowe’s, Rona, Home Depot etc)

The stone places are gonna have a wider assortment
And more options that will work easier for whatever the application / design

The important thing here is if this is a DIY Project is that you get the foundation / footings right
With site prep
Ya need to dig down
Put Down crushed stone
Tamp it down ... make sure it’s level
And only then begin on the actual wall
If you are using these to build planters
You’ll also need to invest in landscape fabric ... and good quality soil

Not a cheap job at all
You’ll save some DIYing
But laying stone can be BACK BREAKING work

It’s one of those things I put in the ... just because you can
Doesn’t necessarily mean you should category

Something I leave to the experts ... young guys to do
With young backs, strong arms, and good knees / joints
The OP is just looking for places to buy stone, not a lecture of whether should diy or not...
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Premium wrote: Awesome thanks. I also came across this on Lowe's website:
https://www.lowes.ca/product/retaining- ... -in-959649

I wonder if it's better to buy from them. It says no cutting is required which would help me save more time from this brick design. I guess I have to make a visit to go check them out.
Just a huge FYI. If you do decide to buy from lowes, it could take weeks. Everything has to be purchased online. I've been waiting for 11 days for my home depot order. I ordered 28 1 1/2" brackets.... Which is now too many but point is the waiting game is very real lol.

I did purchase lumber from a lesser known box store and was able to buy/pickup same day. So, keep that in mind. By the time you get any material from home depot or lowes, your summer will be over.


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Premium wrote: Awesome thanks. I also came across this on Lowe's website:
https://www.lowes.ca/product/retaining- ... -in-959649

I wonder if it's better to buy from them. It says no cutting is required which would help me save more time from this brick design. I guess I have to make a visit to go check them out.
So first of all, the dimensions are wrong on the website for that block. Should check to see what the actual dimensions are. Seems like the depth of the block is closer to 4 inches than 12 as stated.

You should figure out how high you want to build your wall. This will help you decide on what thickness of block you need, I.E. 8 inches or 4 inches.

In regards to your question about cutting, the "no cuts required" could be a bit misleading, if you change the dimensions of most projects to suit the stone, you can do most projects without cutting. Even if you need to cut you can buy a diamond blade for a circ saw, or just use a hammer and chisel, just remember to run water over the blade/stone when cutting.

I really like using Ledgerock drywall or coarsing for my wall or garden projects. 404 stone and Leona carry this, and its all natural and looks great. Its $400/ton iirc, and the drywall will cover 20 sqft @ 8" deep and the coursing will cover 40sqft @ 4" deep per ton. Which actually makes it cheaper than that block you linked from Lowes. You will probably end up capping the top if you use drywall, so that will drive up the price.

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