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Accident - who is at fault? *back by popular demand*

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Accident - who is at fault? *back by popular demand*

Back by popular demand, here is the much loved footage that people actually DM’d requesting:



Thank you to all those who were so damn confident in my 100% fault determination - appreciated and now humorous to read. (I’m the one exiting the garage)

Take a guess what the final fault determination was? Hurry up folks that said I was at fault and erase your messages lol.
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I don't like either of your driving styles. I would definitely be creeping up the ramp especially towards the top.

The other driver is hauling ass making a left turn. 50/50
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HERE WE GO …lol bring that guy from Tesla Forum here...Jokes aside it looks 50/50.Other thing I would say is call your insurance and report it ,becuase looks like she would for sure
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Is their a yield sign futher down in the parking garage?
Or a yield sign for the other vehicle when turning left?
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vkizzle wrote: Is their a yield sign futher down in the parking garage?
Or a yield sign for the other vehicle when turning left?
No yield signs at the ramp, have to double check where the left turn is but I’m doubtful
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turkishdelyte wrote: Hello RFD,

Would love your input on a fun situation. I got into an accident leaving my underground parking from my condo. I was about 95% up the driveway ramp when another tenant made a tight left hand turn into the same driveway ramp. She yelled, screamed and cried I was going excessive speeds and 100% at fault. I was not driving excessive speeds and I am NOT at fault. Needless to say she hasn’t seen my dash am video. She just messaged me saying “when you decide to pay for all the damages or we can go through insurance, let me know”....ummm, what? We have zero damage to our car and did not make a claim or report it to the police.

Any advice, opinions or guidance would be appreciated. Link to video:

Thank you!!!
Without knowing what the setup is outside your underground parking, you came out of there fairly rapidly and didn't check for traffic. She did a crappy turn, and didn't look for traffic. So I'd guess you're looking at a 50/50 fault determination. Hang on to that video in safe place, though!

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KevinM56081 wrote: I don't like either of your driving styles. I would definitely be creeping up the ramp especially towards the top.

The other driver is hauling ass making a left turn. 50/50
I always stop at the top of the ramp, I wasn’t at the top yet before she turned into me...that’s the part I feel she messed up big time so I’m confused how this is 100% my fault according to her.
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turkishdelyte wrote: Hello RFD,

Would love your input on a fun situation. I got into an accident leaving my underground parking from my condo. I was about 95% up the driveway ramp when another tenant made a tight left hand turn into the same driveway ramp. She yelled, screamed and cried I was going excessive speeds and 100% at fault. I was not driving excessive speeds and I am NOT at fault. Needless to say she hasn’t seen my dash am video. She just messaged me saying “when you decide to pay for all the damages or we can go through insurance, let me know”....ummm, what? We have zero damage to our car and did not make a claim or report it to the police.

Any advice, opinions or guidance would be appreciated. Link to video:

Thank you!!!
We'd have to see the overall lot but the ramp is likely a feeder and the lane in front is a thoroughfare. Since you were exiting the feeder, you are at fault.
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turkishdelyte wrote: I always stop at the top of the ramp, I wasn’t at the top yet before she turned into me...that’s the part I feel she messed up big time so I’m confused how this is 100% my fault according to her.
My opinon has been provided with reasoning. I'm not coming to court for you as an expert witness. You asked for opinions - seems like most of us are on the same page.
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Kasakato wrote: We'd have to see the overall lot but the ramp is likely a feeder and the lane in front is a thoroughfare. Since you were exiting the feeder, you are at fault.
Fair enough, appreciated. I guess insurance will have to decide. Luckily I wasn’t at the end of the driveway yet and she entered first. So happy to have a dashcam.
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Can we get a satallite view of the location?
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Looks like 50/50 to me.

It looks more like poor roadway design, but that's another entirely different issue. For future, you should be asking the condo board to install a convex mirror at the top ramp so that those exiting and those entering from that right side can see if there is any on-coming traffic from either direction.
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IMO seems 50/50 you were going too fast and the other driver should never cut across like that. Dash cam makes it look like you could have time to stop but dash cam doesn't really show the slope and probably hard see what's ahead of you by the time you were level and thus collided.

I think you should avoid speaking with other party and just go through insurance if you need anything fixed. Obviously before this you should ask the police if this needs to be filed via report, I forgot the amount of $ damages need to be if reported.

I'm going to assume you already exchanged info?

In either case both parties need to contact their own insurance and go from there. You don't need to speak with other party, your insurance is paid to handle it for you.
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chimaican wrote: Looks like 50/50 to me.

It looks more like poor roadway design, but that's another entirely different issue. For future, you should be asking the condo board to install a convex mirror at the top ramp so that those exiting and those entering from that right side can see if there is any on-coming traffic from either direction.
Your right about needing a convex mirror. Surprised they don't have one.
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It will more than likely be deemed 50/50, so both of you going through insurance is going to increase both your premiums.

By the way, what's up with the time stamp?
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I say it's the Architect or whoever designed this driveway layout is at fault Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes. blind spot and perhaps no turning mirror on top of the ramp ?
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I don't know who would be at fault but my thoughts are below.

Where does that right lane (where the lady turned left) come from? I don't understand why there would be a lane coming onto the ramp halfway up the ramp.

If there is no sign for that lady then there should be. Common sense to me is she should be stopping to look out for people coming up or going down. You shouldn't just turn onto a street/lane without looking first.
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booblehead wrote: I say it's the Architect or whoever designed this driveway layout is at fault Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes. blind spot and perhaps no turning mirror on top of the ramp ?
Yep its looking like that, a poorly designed and thought out layout.
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chimaican wrote: Looks like 50/50 to me.

It looks more like poor roadway design, but that's another entirely different issue. For future, you should be asking the condo board to install a convex mirror at the top ramp so that those exiting and those entering from that right side can see if there is any on-coming traffic from either direction.
+1 exactly what I was thinking.
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radeonboy wrote: Yep its looking like that, a poorly designed and thought out layout.
It's probably one of this infill condo buildings that was built on leftover land originally designated for a school, or repurposed land from former homes or a plaza. They shove a condo apartment in there, think they're being clever with the driveway design and boom... From the overhead satellite shot, it looks like the right hand of the driveway where the lady came from goes to the front lobby entrance.
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