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Nov 2, 2003
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advice on pattio heaters

i got a townhome for the first time and very excited with backyard. should i get a patio heater or propane fire pit?
i might use it a few times a year. which is better value?
in terms of use, it will be just me and wife using it for most part. we dont have family gathering much. (covid does not make difference as we dont socialize much)
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I have a fire pit. It's a much nicer object to sit around and actually feel/see the fire as supposed to a big tall pole. That's just my opinion. I drink and smoke with this thing on all the time. It doesn't get much summer use, but fall/spring and even in the winter, I run it. It's only me and my wife as well.

Now is a good time to get one, mine is 36" square and 34" height, came from Home Depot on clearance for $300 after tax this time last year.

EDIT: trying to find a pic. Mine is in my gazebo. This is the only one I could find, when I first took it out and just fired it up to make sure it worked.
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i have a firepit as well . its nice to look at but dont find the heat a huge improvement unless your right where the wind is blowing. its great to look at though and keep your feet warm.

i imagine the heaters will keep you warmer but are ugly.
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We have both.

We began with a propane fire table about 10 years ago.
It gets the most use.
We use it year round.
In the summer, it’s on the patio, and we sit around it ... as an upscale coffee table
And it’s also sometimes used like a campfire
Where we’ve been known to roast marshmallows

After the Outdoor Dining Furniture gets put away for the season
We move the fire table inside the Gazebo where it is protected from the worst of the weather
And keeps us in comfort Late October thru Late April

The upright propane patio heaters
We added when we expanded our patio
They are a great add on when we have bigger parties
And it cools down in the evening
Gives our guests some warmth who cannot (or don’t all want to) huddle around the fire table

Technically they could extend our patio season longer into Fall
But we don’t have a whole lot of folks over after Labour Day (esp at night)
So when it’s just the 2 of us ... or another couple / family
We are quite happy with just the fire table

NOTE - Patio Heat options go on clearance August thru September
October tends to be too late (the stores are by now using that floor space for snowblowers etc)
This year... and CRAZY COVID
Good luck finding anything
In an effort to extend patio season as long as possible (and more guests) Restaurants have been buying up heating options since August

It’s like other seasonal outdoor items
You’ll pay more in the Spring than Late Summer
BUT ... there will be lots more selection available
So a trade off
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Mar 31, 2017
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One item to consider in addition to aesthetics is how long the propane tank will last if it's a patio heater vs fire pit. I don't have a patio heater but I have a fire pit and I find the gas usage is crazy. I have the Napoleon Tropez and I find that we go through a propane tank every 3 to 4 times we turn it on (each time is approx 2 to 3 hours). It's a PITA to lug it back to the store to fill it up all the time.

Perhaps it's just my fire pit but those with both can comment on gas usage between the two.
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I have a natural gas fire pit and a propane stand up heater. The fire pit keeps my toes warm but is basically useless compared to the propane stand up heater on its lowest setting. Most of the heat with a fire pit goes up. I purchased a reflector for it once from a place in the states but it got lost, I got my money back, and thats was the end of it. I dont know how you would make that work anyway to be honest.
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SeeCCC wrote: One item to consider in addition to aesthetics is how long the propane tank will last if it's a patio heater vs fire pit. I don't have a patio heater but I have a fire pit and I find the gas usage is crazy. I have the Napoleon Tropez and I find that we go through a propane tank every 3 to 4 times we turn it on (each time is approx 2 to 3 hours). It's a PITA to lug it back to the store to fill it up all the time.

Perhaps it's just my fire pit but those with both can comment on gas usage between the two.
My Napoleon Patio Flame is 40K BTU. A 20lb tank is 430,000 BTU, so it would only last 10 hours. And while its variable flame, I always run mine balls out. The stand up I run on low almost always as it puts out so much heat. I’m glad my pit is NG. It uses as much gas per hour as my furnace.
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Jerico wrote: My Napoleon Patio Flame is 40K BTU. A 20lb tank is 430,000 BTU, so it would only last 10 hours. And while its variable flame, I always run mine balls out. The stand up I run on low almost always as it puts out so much heat. I’m glad my pit is NG. It uses as much gas per hour as my furnace.
That certainly explains it. Should have checked this before we bought it 🤦🏻‍♀️

Perhaps I should consider selling it, getting a patio coffee table and 2 patio heaters. Might still be ahead with all the gas I'm using on the fire pit Face With Tears Of Joy
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Paris
SeeCCC wrote: That certainly explains it. Should have checked this before we bought it 🤦🏻‍♀️

Perhaps I should consider selling it, getting a patio coffee table and 2 patio heaters. Might still be ahead with all the gas I'm using on the fire pit Face With Tears Of Joy
One patio heater is way more than enough. A manufacturer of patio heaters once told me the electric ones are better anyways as they function better in wind.
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Dec 17, 2009
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Sorry to bump an old thread but any recommendation for a patio heater?...I've seen a few from Costco but some reviews say they rust and some have ignition issues...
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Paris
I have both. The fire pit is mostly for ambiance and the heavy lifting of actually keeping me warm is done by the stand up heater. Get a nice candle for $10 for ambiance and a stand up, then the table top heater later.
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Jerico wrote: I have both. The fire pit is mostly for ambiance and the heavy lifting of actually keeping me warm is done by the stand up heater. Get a nice candle for $10 for ambiance and a stand up, then the table top heater later.
Thanks but I already have a Napoleon fire pit... looking for a stand up heater when we have more people on the deck... especially for watching football ...there's so many from Amazon, Costco, homedepot etc...hard to go through all the reviews and pick a good one...so if anyone is able to give a brand that they've had for awhile and can vouch for it..
It would be nice...
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Nitecrawller wrote: Thanks but I already have a Napoleon fire pit... looking for a stand up heater when we have more people on the deck... especially for watching football ...there's so many from Amazon, Costco, homedepot etc...hard to go through all the reviews and pick a good one...so if anyone is able to give a brand that they've had for awhile and can vouch for it..
It would be nice...
I have a crappy one from a company that went out of business and I bought it from Factory Direct. Its 100% fine save for a little rust on the top umbrella part I paint one every 3 years. Other one came from Home Depot that I have at the cottage. I think no matter what you buy they are hit and miss unless you get a $1k one from Napoleon

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