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Air Canada "2 tickets left"

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Air Canada "2 tickets left"

I need a specific flight on a certain day/time from Winnipeg to Vancouver, to connect with an international flight. It's not until August, but the flight is showing "2 tickets left" and is only available as Economy Flex at $437.

I got the other direction, Vancouver to Winnipeg flight on sale at $200... so I'm debating whether or not I should wait and hope the $437 price goes down. But the "2 tickets left" scares me, is there really only 2 tickets left on a flight 6 months from now, or is there a good chance that will change closer to August?

Thanks.
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Air Canada actually has 15 internal booking classes for its domestic flights. They are the letters listed at https://www3.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/ou ... =AirCanada on the Earning tab at the bottom. They are grouped there into the marketing buckets Tango, Flex, and Latitude in order of (generally) decreasing cost in each bucket.

The "2 tickets left" likely only means there are only 2 tickets left *within the current lowest available booking class*. Once these are sold, the lowest economy fare will be higher, namely the next higher one available. As a random example, flight AC8623 on Aug 6 has availability J8 C8 D8 Z7 P7 R5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W6 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0. This is in decreasing fare order. All the Tango booking classes, from S to K, are sold out. In Flex, G (the lowest cost booking class) is sold out, and at most 6 seats are available in W. Once those go, only more expensive V,Q,H... tickets will be available. On your flight in question, all this means is that one of the fare classes has a 2 instead of a 6. Of course, that does mean that once those go, the fare may jump up quite a bit. And if several in a row were 2s, you might (ultimately) be out of luck.

Unfortunately, you need paid frequent traveller tools (in this case, Expertflyer.com) to check this in detail. While not perfect, you can get a general idea for free by checking the seat map. If very few seats are empty, the flight is really in danger of fully selling out. If lots are, it's probably just one fare class like this. (It's not perfect since not every sold ticket may have a seat assignment, and the flight may be oversold).
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When you are on AC's website, you can check the seat map. It'll show you the seats that are taken, and which ones can still be assigned, for the class of ticket you're trying to buy. If there are lots of open seats, it means there are still lots of availability.

For a flight in Aug., it is not likely it's almost sold out now.
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Cavegirl wrote: When you are on AC's website, you can check the seat map. It'll show you the seats that are taken, and which ones can still be assigned, for the class of ticket you're trying to buy. If there are lots of open seats, it means there are still lots of availability.

For a flight in Aug., it is not likely it's almost sold out now.
a seat map might account for specific seats that are reserved but they don't account for seats that are NOT reserved so it's not the best indicator.

as said by the poster above, they don't actually 2 seats left, just 2 seats in that fare class
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c_snapper wrote: a seat map might account for specific seats that are reserved but they don't account for seats that are NOT reserved so it's not the best indicator.
It's still a good indicator because if many seats are empty and can be bought and reserved now, compared to a seatmap that shows very few seats, you know there are still many seats available to be booked.
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Arrgh wrote: It's still a good indicator because if many seats are empty and can be bought and reserved now, compared to a seatmap that shows very few seats, you know there are still many seats available to be booked.
but it doesn't indicate at what fare class...

a $250 tango ticket is the same seat as a $1250 latitude flex ticket....but there's a $1000 difference that the seat map won't/can't tell you
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OP, chances are that the fare will continue to increase. HOUSKA and C_SNAPER knows what they are talking about, Seat map means squat. The majority of folks don't pay for seat selections because they are to cheap.
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c_snapper wrote: but it doesn't indicate at what fare class...

a $250 tango ticket is the same seat as a $1250 latitude flex ticket....but there's a $1000 difference that the seat map won't/can't tell you
McKinsey wrote: OP, chances are that the fare will continue to increase. HOUSKA and C_SNAPER knows what they are talking about, Seat map means squat. The majority of folks don't pay for seat selections because they are to cheap.
Please go on the AC website. You can see what fares are available for a flight. You can then check the seat map to see how many seats are already taken and how many are available. Those are real time info.

The seat map info does NOT mean squat. It has some meaning.
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Arrgh wrote: Please go on the AC website. You can see what fares are available for a flight. You can then check the seat map to see how many seats are already taken and how many are available. Those are real time info.

The seat map info does NOT mean squat. It has some meaning.
I won't bother arguing with you,

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