YYZ -> Japan $540, YVR -> Japan $510 Non-stop (May 2021)

badOne wrote: ↑ AC went bankrupt twice in its history. Once they see this pandemic wont end any time soon, and they see a lot of outstanding vouchers, there is a fair chance they will declare bankruptcy to extinguish the voucher and miles debt which is now over 1 billion dollars.

Yeah, AC’s financials have me nervous. I have a hundreds of thousands of unused Aeroplan points.

Gonna give the same advice: do not give your money to Air Canada. My gf booked a local flight three weeks ago and it got cancelled due to covid a few days before the flight. Like covid was new lol? They should just not have allowed this flight in the first place but I guess that's just to show how much they need the money and can get away with anything.

We lended money for free to AC. When we tried to call, they simply hung up on the phone after we tried to argue a bit. They just tell you to contact them through their website which will lead you to a message telling you to not contact them about refund because they just don't do refunds. But they'll keep taking your money that's for sure. That kind of practice is simply illegal in Quebec. They absolutely don't give a [email protected]&.

orditeck wrote: ↑ Gonna give the same advice: do not give your money to Air Canada. My gf booked a local flight three weeks ago and it got cancelled due to covid a few days before the flight. Like covid was new lol? They should just not have allowed this flight in the first place but I guess that's just to show how much they need the money and can get away with anything.

We lended money for free to AC. When we tried to call, they simply hung up on the phone after we tried to argue a bit. They just tell you to contact them through their website which will lead you to a message telling you to not contact them about refund because they just don't do refunds. But they'll keep taking your money that's for sure. That kind of practice is simply illegal in Quebec. They absolutely don't give a [email protected]&.

File a dispute with your credit card.

superbpx wrote: ↑ File a dispute with your credit card.

That's exactly what I did when they hung up on me. Fingers crossed.

air canada is pretty sketchy right now, trying to get as much cash as they possibly can and beware if they cancel your flight, you also dont get a refund, and will get a voucher instead. They have been selling flights right now and canceling them but wont give refunds

We had a 2-stop flight from YUL to Saigon. The Narita to Saigon flight was cancelled and AC just basically said "find a flight for yourselves" from Narita to Saigon. Also, we won't refund *any* part of the trip. Yeah... so my I can't get to my final destination but that's *my* problem? MMMkay...

The vouchers? 2 year validity starting from date of purchase (Feb 2020). So... basically "one summer" worth of traveling window.

I will be giving the middlefinger from now on to AC.

For folks wondering about bankruptcy / bailout situation... I do not think the Federal gvt will let AC go to *true* bankruptcy, but you can pretty much kiss you deposits goodbye at that point.

cdfegab wrote: ↑air canada is pretty sketchy right now, trying to get as much cash as they possibly can and beware if they cancel your flight, you also dont get a refund, and will get a voucher instead. They have been selling flights right now and canceling them but wont give refunds

Pretty much what has been said here...

donttoewsmebro wrote: ↑ Using https://matrix.itasoftware.com/ you can pull up the fare rules. You can go to Osaka instead of Tokyo or have a stopover in Tokyo and continue on to Osaka for a 241.

interesting! thanks so much!!

Longshot49 wrote: ↑ The vouchers? 2 year validity starting from date of purchase (Feb 2020). So... basically "one summer" worth of traveling window.

Not arguing your other points but the vouchers never expire and are transferable as well as retain value after one use. So it is basically a gift card.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... id-19.html

Oh wow good thing I read this thread. I came across this deal a few days ago and came close to purchasing.

F**k AC if they don't give refunds for cancelled trips.. I'd be absolutely pissed if they took my money like that.

Air Canada, sorry, refund me first then I may think to give you my business.

donttoewsmebro wrote: ↑
Not arguing your other points but the vouchers never expire and are transferable as well as retain value after one use. So it is basically a gift card.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... id-19.html

Yep - not gonna get into too many details but I have a long chain of email and the first "offers" was a 24-month travel credit from date of purchase. No retained value - one time use and no "refund" for unused portions. They will glady take your money if the flight is more money tho.

I think the "clean care" is their new "updated" COVID policy.

So basically... worse then giftcards when gvt finally put in no expiry dates.

Excerpt from email :
"Air Canada does offer 24 months credit for future travel. You could rebook the new travel day and the trip must be completed in 24 months based on the date of the ticket purchased."

Longshot49 wrote: ↑ Yep - not gonna get into too many details but I have a long chain of email and the first "offers" was a 24-month travel credit from date of purchase. No retained value - one time use and no "refund" for unused portions. They will glady take your money if the flight is more money tho.

I think the "clean care" is their new "updated" COVID policy.

So basically... worse then giftcards when gvt finally put in no expiry dates.

Excerpt from email :
"Air Canada does offer 24 months credit for future travel. You could rebook the new travel day and the trip must be completed in 24 months based on the date of the ticket purchased."

Sorry to hear that they cant give you the same options that they offer people now.

Cheapo-Findo wrote: ↑ carry a fan

True

A lot of people here are just thinking about the price but not looking at the bigger picture. That being said, all the best.

FrustratinglyFrugal wrote: ↑ ...Air Canada is relaunching Aeroplan soon (was suppose to be Aug IIRC but now delayed due to Covid) so I could totally see them planning to devalue the points by 65% beforehand and then factoring into their Covid response

Dang, i am still sitting on 700K+ miles. We were going to make one final/3rd mRTW trip this summer and another family trip in Xmas. Now i am thinking of ways to cash out as mRTW trip will soon be a history.

My flight attendant friend says that these deals are risks because AC can always change the rules or cancel your flight on you. Plus, you can't control government self-quarantine rules or travel restrictions.

They say if you can afford to lose the full price of what you paid for if it comes to it, then it's worth the gamble. If it'll pain you to lose the $540, don't do it.

uglyguy wrote: ↑ Dang, i am still sitting on 700K+ miles. We were going to make one final/3rd mRTW trip this summer and another family trip in Xmas. Now i am thinking of ways to cash out as mRTW trip will soon be a history.

Aeroplan has mentioned that the ability to add more than one stopover is coming back with Aeroplan 2.0 as they took away this ability in Sept 2019. So the mini-rtw will return albeit they may devalue the long haul awards and make certain regions more expensive.

Booked a flight for $515.

Definitely taking a risk on a few things...

1) foreign nationals may still be barred from entering Japan next spring/summer or required to undergo a 14 day quarantine.
2) Air Canada doesn’t restart this route at all and it’s just a way to collect an interest free loan from Canadians with no intent to deliver the paid service... essentially a scam.
3) COVID gets even worse in 2021 and traveling between Japan and Canada is too high of a health risk even with lessened government regulations.

Acknowledging all the above, I still booked. The price and fact this is a direct flight is too good to pass on.

With the worst case scenario being to convert this ticket into a voucher, I (pre-covid) fly regularly for business domestically and will be able to redeem the voucher on other travel without too much issue. As a shareholder, I don’t mind giving AC a little more of my money either.