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Airbnb guests refuse to leave.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:38 pm
Piro21
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:38 pm

cptsykes wrote: ↑ Anyone see this story. https://www.chch.com/air-bnb-guests-wont-leave-or-pay/

How can hamilton police refuse to take action? Is there more to the story or property rights are dead in Ontario and I didn't get the memo?
Run borderline illegal business in a residential neighborhood because **** your neighbors, amirite?
Get upset when other people with your attitude won't leave your house after you invited them in

It's good to see karma still exists.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:43 pm
cptsykes [OP]
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:43 pm

Well, I can sympathize with people struggling to make rent but two wrongs don't make a right and if business is illegal govt should ban/outlaw Airbnb province wide or country wide. Police should not refuse to enforce property rights.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:46 pm
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:46 pm

cptsykes wrote: ↑ Well, I can sympathize with people struggling to make rent but two wrongs don't make a right and if business is illegal govt should ban/outlaw Airbnb province wide or country wide. Police should not refuse to enforce property rights.
You don't have property rights in Canada. You have a lease from the government that they'll honor as long as you follow their rules. Operate outside the law and you operate outside it's protections as well.

Before any of you start arguing with me thinking you're in the US, listen to this: https://certificate.queenslaw.ca/podcas ... ian-law-10

Property rights were specifically excluded from the Charter for a reason.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:50 pm
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Jul 2nd, 2021 3:50 pm

Won't leave, lol. Go stand outside the local lunkhead gym with a few hundred cash, hire helpers to encourage them to leave.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 4:00 pm
cptsykes [OP]
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Jul 2nd, 2021 4:00 pm

That's good to know but that still doesn't explain the actions of hamilton police since owner of the land is still alive and seems like living in same house. It's trespassing plain and simple. There is no reason for them to wait for court order to enforce trespassing laws. :facepalm:
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Jul 2nd, 2021 4:13 pm
canoek
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Jul 2nd, 2021 4:13 pm

Hard to sympathize with airbnbers.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 5:22 pm
realtorhome
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Jul 2nd, 2021 5:22 pm

I think the police may have their laws mixed up. They were probably told (and reminded daily) not to do any evictions without a court order, but forgotten about the part that is should fall under the Residential Tenancies Act. It's not often that an airbnb overstays and not pay.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 6:46 pm
MarinersFanatik
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Jul 2nd, 2021 6:46 pm

Lol, why were the neighbours and the police giving the broadcast crew so much sh*t? They're not the ones being scumbags.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 7:53 pm
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Jul 2nd, 2021 7:53 pm

Those neighbours must be a treat to have next door.

The police response is ridiculous, they will charge the homeowner with harassment if she changes the locks? wtF?

This is why involving the police in these matters is almost useless, handle it on your own. These people require some external 'motivation', never fails.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:04 pm
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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:04 pm

Total losers... they should be arrested. There are literally people in jail for stealing one piece of food from a grocery store. And then you have morons like this probably abusing the crap out of the property too. The police saying they will arrest the owner for changing the locks is the dumbest thing ever. Feel terrible for the homeowner.
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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:14 pm
JanZ95915
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Jul 2nd, 2021 8:14 pm

The RTA is pretty clear on this:

Exemptions from Act
5 This Act does not apply with respect to,

(a) living accommodation intended to be provided to the travelling or vacationing public or occupied for a seasonal or temporary period in a hotel, motel or motor hotel, resort, lodge, tourist camp, cottage or cabin establishment, inn, campground, trailer park, tourist home, bed and breakfast vacation establishment or vacation home;

Disgusting people indeed and shocking that the police does not know their own laws. I would never rent out to someone though who is local and always make sure that tehir intention of renting is in line with what is considered "travelling or vacationing public".
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Jul 2nd, 2021 9:39 pm
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Jul 2nd, 2021 9:39 pm

My inclinaton was to do exactly as Mark Weisleder said and if the Hamilton police arrested me, they'd be sued for unlawful arrest.

Bunch of dolts!


and I mean the police.
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Jul 3rd, 2021 8:19 am
JayLove06
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Jul 3rd, 2021 8:19 am

Piro21 wrote: ↑ Run borderline illegal business in a residential neighborhood because **** your neighbors, amirite?
Get upset when other people with your attitude won't leave your house after you invited them in

It's good to see karma still exists.
Complete garbage.
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Jul 3rd, 2021 10:18 am
djdestroyer
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Jul 3rd, 2021 10:18 am

Lol what a trashy group of people from the squatters to the neighbours to the cops.
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Jul 3rd, 2021 12:09 pm
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Jul 3rd, 2021 12:09 pm

Landlords and Tenants of Ontario

Look for it on FB groups. Non-stop entertainment between 2 parties. For the most part I side with the Landlords but I have to be honest there are some out there that are just inhumane and assholes.
Jul 3rd, 2021 12:27 pm
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Jul 3rd, 2021 12:27 pm

It definitely goes both ways.

I've seen some gems out there. One memorable property (illegal multifamily rental) that I saw with a fellow RFD'er, the listing agent was literally getting attacked by one of the tenants who refused to give anyone access to the vacant unit. Not to mention the property had dog feces everywhere, cigarette butts, joint roaches, etc. I can still smell that basement.

Endless entertainment.
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Jul 4th, 2021 12:18 am
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Jul 4th, 2021 12:18 am

cptsykes wrote: ↑ Anyone see this story. https://www.chch.com/air-bnb-guests-wont-leave-or-pay/

How can hamilton police refuse to take action? Is there more to the story or property rights are dead in Ontario and I didn't get the memo?
cause its a civil matter just same as if you cheque bounced on a kijiji deal. they should start a go fund me page for the landlord and all can donate.
Jul 5th, 2021 8:48 am
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Jul 5th, 2021 8:48 am

JayLove06 wrote: ↑ Complete garbage.
Just another example of police turning from enforcing law and order into protecting the criminals.

When you add in the police told them (the owners or news crew) they could be charged with harassment. It’s clear somethings wrong with the role Hamilton cops are now ordered to play. Also seems the riff raff from the neighbouring unit seem to be with the trespassers.

Whether you like AIRBNB or not, it’s a clear meltdown of laws and how they are enforced.
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