Really? Why? I have bought 3 and they are amazing and very well supported..death_hawk wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 7:26 pmI have a couple Xiaomi devices.
I'd rather pay less. Xiaomi was a huge regret for me.
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No B66 or B13 LTE on all but the most expensive ($500+ Xiaomi phones).macthehoser wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 5:38 pmNow I'm confused. Which band does this mi A2 have and the other Xiaomi/Redmi phones don't to make it work with Freedom?
Many don't have B4 3G/HSPA, making it impossible to make calls.
Some don't have B4 LTE, making it useless in Canada.
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a3 pro. whats ur usage for the phone? what did u replace it with?luckystrike1 wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 4:40 pmFor me, the A3Pro ended up in a drawer with the other junk phones that I will give to the grandkids to play with when they come over.
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That reddit freedom thread specifically mentions A2 (working voice/sms/data) vs A1 (no voice but working data/SMS)macthehoser wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 5:38 pmNow I'm confused. Which band does this mi A2 have and the other Xiaomi/Redmi phones don't to make it work with Freedom?
A1 bands:
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GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
UMTS: B1/B2/B5/B8
FDD-LTE: B1/B3/B5
TDD-LTE: B40/B41(2555-2655MHz)
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GSM：B2/B3/B5/B8
WCDMA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
LTE FDD：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20
LTE TDD：B38/B40
Blanket statements are huge oversight when proper information is readily available!
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How’s the camera or face recognition. Fingerprint is horrible unlocks my phone around 30% of the time maybe I didn’t do the scans correctly or try more anglesjustrelaxok wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 4:25 pmI had the exact opposite experience with my Umidigi F1 Play. Albeit more expensive than the one discussed in this thread, but not an expensive phone by any means. The only issues i have with the F1 Play are the fingerprint reader and the gestures, everything else is top notch. It's essentially a sub $250 oneplus 6 with a larger battery. The battery lasts me two days, the phone is snappy and has stock android. I upgraded to this phone from a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (SD845), and I find the UMI just as quick for gaming/daily use.
I bought this phone as well to test it out and will report back when i get it. So far I've been waiting for 40 days.
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The global version of the A1 did support LTE bands 4 and 7, it did not have WCDMA Band 4 so that is where it would have failed. I owned one and it worked just fine on Koodo/Videotron, and was using Band 4/7 in certain areas.aasoror wrote: ↑Jun 29th, 2019 2:34 amThat reddit freedom thread specifically mentions A2 (working voice/sms/data) vs A1 (no voice but working data/SMS)
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GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8 UMTS: B1/B2/B5/B8 FDD-LTE: B1/B3/B5 TDD-LTE: B40/B41(2555-2655MHz)So as the linked thread detailed, it comes to WCDMA B4 and LTE FDD B4/B7 (being supported by A2 and not A1).Code: Select all
GSM：B2/B3/B5/B8 WCDMA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE FDD：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20 LTE TDD：B38/B40
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A1 LTE Bands (Global version)
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20 TDD-LTE B38/B40
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Thanks for the correction, was just copy/pasting from Xiaomi global website. My point still stands nonetheless, disregarding phones for usage on Freedom just because they lack B66 and/or B13 is an oversight, instead, people should do their own research and localize to coverage in their own areas.goofball wrote: ↑Jun 29th, 2019 7:28 amThe global version of the A1 did support LTE bands 4 and 7, it did not have WCDMA Band 4 so that is where it would have failed. I owned one and it worked just fine on Koodo/Videotron, and was using Band 4/7 in certain areas.
A1 LTE Bands (Global version)
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20 TDD-LTE B38/B40
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I have had both the Umidigi and Xiaomi and completely disagree with you. The Xiaomi is better quality, less buggy and much more supported.death_hawk wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 7:26 pmI have a couple Xiaomi devices.
I'd rather pay less. Xiaomi was a huge regret for me.
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The bigger problem with Umidigi is the firmware updates are now done for your phone. No more security updates. The first firmware for your phone was Apr-10 and last was May-24th. This is like all their other phones... support for a couple months and then they move on.justrelaxok wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 4:25 pmI had the exact opposite experience with my Umidigi F1 Play. Albeit more expensive than the one discussed in this thread, but not an expensive phone by any means. The only issues i have with the F1 Play are the fingerprint reader and the gestures, everything else is top notch. It's essentially a sub $250 oneplus 6 with a larger battery. The battery lasts me two days, the phone is snappy and has stock android. I upgraded to this phone from a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (SD845), and I find the UMI just as quick for gaming/daily use.
I bought this phone as well to test it out and will report back when i get it. So far I've been waiting for 40 days.
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An 'oversight'? No.aasoror wrote: ↑Jun 29th, 2019 8:38 amThanks for the correction, was just copy/pasting from Xiaomi global website. My point still stands nonetheless, disregarding phones for usage on Freedom just because they lack B66 and/or B13 is an oversight, instead, people should do their own research and localize to coverage in their own areas.
FM on a phone without B66 is HORRIBLE, if you care at all about data. B4 on FM is MASSIVELY overburdened. Aside from the fact that there are so many users relying on B4 for LTE (because they use devices that don't support B66), their 3G service (where the higher priority voice calls are) also suck up B4 bandwidth.
B7 is supposed to help, and it does. In fact, in contrary to pretty much every other provider I've analyzed, B7 is NOT the 'default' band to connect to on FM for everybody.
If your device supports B66 you, on most devices, will rarely every see a B7 connection, despite sitting right beside a site serving that band. It seems (and this is a supposition on my part, I've found no OFFICIAL word of this, it's just a behavior I've noticed on 3 separate devices) that FM reserves B7 for devices that don't support B66. I can FORCE a B7 connection on my B66 capable device only by going into the engineering menu. B66 capable devices don't even LIST B7 cell IDs as being available, despite me knowing they are in range and available.
This does makes sense, after all devices stuck on B4 will get dribs and drabs of data on that band, so B7 is their only savior. Problem though with that plan is B7 SUCKS for penetration (not like B4 is great, but it's better then B7). So the moment you get farther away from the site, or go inside, chances are you'll loose you B7 connection. On my 'non B66 device' it holds onto a B7 connection as long as it can, but very often drops to just B4, and that's when even browsing a web page stops working.
B13 is a different animal. If you're in the city B13 is FAR less important than B66. It DOES allow for MUCH better building penetration, but if you're that deep your signal isn't going to be great anyways. No, B13 is critical for more rural areas, on the fringe of FM coverage. It SHINES on say Highway 400 heading north of Toronto. Being longer range means there is less bandwidth to throw around, but there are many times my non B13 device would drop to the "AWAY" network while a B13 capable device would keep with FM B13 (good test was the GO commuter train, Barrie line, just north of the city).
All in, it comes to this: FM's network is not 'great', it pales in comparison to Bellus and Rogers with coverage and penetration. So, as an FM customer who cares about mobile data, WHY would you choose a phone that limits your access to a limited network to begin with? It makes no sense. There are lots of options out there that support B66 and B13 that are comparable in price. Have a look at the NIB market. For example, the LG G5 is dirt cheap to get, and supports FMs network perfectly. Motorola is also a great choice.
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superxxxstud wrote: ↑Jun 28th, 2019 7:39 pmReally? Why? I have bought 3 and they are amazing and very well supported..
Between stupid bootloader unlock issues and general quality issues I'm not buying one again.
My primary device (Mi Pad 4 Plus) wasn't a cheap device either at $500+ after landing.
Granted... I don't have any Umidigis yet so I have no basis of comparison but I do know that Xiaomi won't be on my list of higher end devices any more.
Low end? Maybe. But they're getting killed by competitors in terms of specs.
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