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Am I paying too much for natural gas (Enbridge)?

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Am I paying too much for natural gas (Enbridge)?

Looking at the past 12 months, my bill has ranged from about $65 in the summer to $230 in the winter. In total, it's been $1800 for 12 months, or an average of $150 a month.

The only uses of natural gas is a water heater and heating. The house is a semi-detached and roughly 1250sqft + basement. It is an older house, built in roughly 1970 and located in the GTA.

Do these costs for natural gas look too high or are they normal?
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What temperature do you keep your house at?
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TheFrostOne wrote: Do these costs for natural gas look too high or are they normal?
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Dec 20, 2018
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Sounds way too high either your house is very poorly insulated and/or inefficient furnace and water heater

I average around $30 in gas during summer and around $80 in winter with heat on. I have a tankless water heater and gas furnace

I do like my house cool though , winter it's around 19-21 degrees and summer I set ac to around 21-24 depending on whether I'm home or not
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tomuch factors to take into consideration... how many Sq. Ft do you heat? Family of 2 or 5? What temperature you keep your house? its there many windows facing north? Attic is well insulated? etc etc etc
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Delivery and minimum charges are a killer.

Just checked my July bill and its $32. Just the water heater on right now. Delivery min is $22+HST. Not sure why you are at $65. Do you take a lot of baths?

Average is around $100/month across the year. Water heater, furnace, 2 fireplaces burning pilots all the time, and keep my garage at 10 celsius all winter. House built 2000, 1400 square, raised bungalow, full finished basement. Attic R70, triple pane windows in all openings. All walls insulated by builder (poorly) with fibreglass.

Edit: I own my water tank, and its maybe 4 years old so maybe a little more efficient than an old one? Hot water tanks dont become teenagers in Paris
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Jun 26, 2019
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Jerico wrote: Delivery and minimum charges are a killer.
Damm you $20 customer fee!

Anyways, all things considered, the water heater should be a nonfactor. That said, $65 in the summer seems a bit high, is it a rental?

In regards to the winter costs, heating a house to 23 degrees with any combination of an inefficent furnace, air leakage, poor insulation, could easily result in those bills. Based on the squarefootage you probably have a lot of those factors working against you.
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TheFrostOne wrote: Looking at the past 12 months, my bill has ranged from about $65 in the summer to $230 in the winter. In total, it's been $1800 for 12 months, or an average of $150 a month.

The only uses of natural gas is a water heater and heating. The house is a semi-detached and roughly 1250sqft + basement. It is an older house, built in roughly 1970 and located in the GTA.

Do these costs for natural gas look too high or are they normal?
Our house is 1800 sf detached, two story brick, unfinished basement in Oshawa. Built in 2006. Has a gas fireplace but we never used it.

After moving in in 2016, we had the following upgrades done:
- Hot Water Tank replaced in June 2018 (NEW: Giant UG50-40LFPV-N2U 50 Gal. ; OLD: John Wood 6G50NVH-02 50 Gal.)
- Furnace replaced in October 2019 (NEW: Lennox ML296UH070XV36B-55 70K BTU ; OLD: Luxaire/Goodman GM9S060B12UP11J 60K BTU)
- Attic Insulation TOPPED in October 2019

Our MONTHLY AVERAGE of NATURAL GAS bills (including the cost of the HWT rental) since 2016:

2017 - $94.74
2018 - $103.89
2019 - $100.90
2020 (to June) - $118.78

The Hot Water Tank is on a RENTAL and is $34.69 after taxes (on my Enbridge bill) ... so if you are minus that amount from my average gas bill ... my natural gas cost is approximately $85 a month.

Possible upgrades coming:
- natural gas BBQ (to replace our current propane 6 burner)
- natural gas range (to replace the previous owner's refurbished electric range)
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Check your meter reads and compare them to the bill every single month, especially with Enbridge. Enbridge is famous for multiple estimated meter reads. They contract out meter reads to yahoos who sometimes falsify meter reads so they don't have to go out and do their job. After I had enough evidence, I had to threaten them with a complaint at the Ontario Energy Board before they would do anything about one meter that was a problem for nearly 10 years.

Remember, the entire billing department at Enbridge is run by Accenture, so billing has really no connection to what actually happens in the field.
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I have the same square footage - seems high to me. What are the delivery and other charges charges? What is your usage?

My last month's bill was $37 for 34 days and 45.173 cubic metre - $22 was actual usage, rest were surcharges and taxes. Though my house is 25 years old, new water heater and furnace = yours still seems high.

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