ASUS TUF Laptop, 15.6” 144Hz 1080P, Ryzen 7 4800H, GeForce RTX 2060, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD ($1599.99-$200 =$1399.99)

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Getting a decent processor and functional graphics card for the games you want to play isn't too hard at the moment. But I wouldn't sacrifice screen quality to get it unless you are capping your FPS at 60. There was a G15 zephryus sale before that was similar to this with a 1660ti but a better screen.

It isn't a panda panel, but similar lowest tier RGB scores and well below average response times (30+). If you have used a 144hz monitor before the ghosting is quite noticeable. This is coming from someone who opted for a 17" AU Optronics laptop instead to get ~21-25 gtg m/s response time and it's still fairly noticeable in fast paced games.

$50 less than the sale price I got mine at for comparison. Obviously not an AMD so if productivity or testing who can 7-zip the fastest is your goal then skip (benchmarking is cool for the 2 minutes you let it run but everyone recommends disabling boosting, undervolting, etc, whatever it takes to get those core temps down). But it's the max-p variant of the 2060 instead of the regular mobile variant (HWinfo confirmed - watched the GPU get 110w). If I could go back I would have spent the extra ~100-150 and waited for a deal on a 99% sRGB display.

In market for a laptop >2K, wondering if I should wait for the Ryzen 5000 series?

I think this is a great deal! I have the TUF with the only difference 500GB SSD and 1660ti for $1399 - $100 (Best Buy 30 days price guarantee adjustment). So the fact if you factor in additional $100 for 2x SSD + RTX 2060 (others say it's just a very minor upgrade from 1660ti) makes it a good deal.

Something to note:
- Reviewers says it tends to get pretty hot, which I had no problem playing FF14 (graphic heavy game) and it goes as high as 75C
- For that sake, buy a cooling fan which may be the reason why it didn't go above 75C
- The display is probably the minimum that I look for display (but 144hz)
- Build quality is surprisingly good given the fact it's a lot of plastics

Overall love it and I think I made a good decision!

LeS91757 wrote: ↑In market for a laptop >2K, wondering if I should wait for the Ryzen 5000 series?

Gonna be a long time before the mobile 5000 series is released as they are supposed to be introducing them in January. Expect Atleast 6 months or so before there are decent options. The mobile 3000 series from Nvidia is also expected to release in January and will have a very large performance gain. All in all I think it's actually a pretty bad time to buy a laptop especially if you care about gaming.

JurassicFlop wrote: ↑ Ignoring WiFi 5 because honestly I don't see a giant difference on my ac wifi network with WiFi6.

You will see zero difference on your WiFi 5 (AC) network with WiFi 6 (AX) because they are completely different standards. You need a WiFi 6 enabled receiver and router before you will see any difference. WiFi only runs at the speed of the weakest link in the chain.

The only flaw with this laptop is super wobbly screen.
watch few videos from youtube.

Thanks, I'm hoping Ryzen start to squeeze Intel and we see a price drop in those 10 gen laptops.

I went to town with the 4900H variant:
Upgraded to 64GB RAM, swapped the display panel (for 92% sRGB, 144Hz), added 2TB NVMe (moved the partition over to it, and using the original 512GB as a secondary drive), added a couple of graphene sheets to the FETs for heat dissipation.

LeS91757 wrote: ↑ Thanks, I'm hoping Ryzen start to squeeze Intel and we see a price drop in those 10 gen laptops.

Intel's 10th gen mobile CPUs are a nightmare and that isn't looking like it will change until at least 2022. You are going to want the Ryzen 4XXX variant regardless if you value things like performance, thermals, lower cost, and battery life.

Ryzen 5000 mobile will be available early 2021 as well and the gap will widen by a further ~20%. Exciting times to be buying a laptop compared to only a couple years ago.

CanadaCPU wrote: ↑ Intel's 10th gen mobile CPUs are a nightmare and that isn't looking like it will change until at least 2022. You are going to want the Ryzen 4XXX variant regardless if you value things like performance, thermals, lower cost, and battery life.

Ryzen 5000 mobile will be available early 2021 as well and the gap will widen by a further ~20%. Exciting times to be buying a laptop compared to only a couple years ago.

Thanks, I purchased 2 other Intel variants and ended up returning both of them. I think I'll end up with a Ryzen 4000, i've waited long enough. Hoping for some deals on BF this year (fingers crossed). Recommendations are welcomed -> (Ryzen 4000 + 1660 or RTX) deals<-.

LeS91757 wrote: ↑ Thanks, I purchased 2 other Intel variants and ended up returning both of them. I think I'll end up with a Ryzen 4000, i've waited long enough. Hoping for some deals on BF this year (fingers crossed). Recommendations are welcomed -> (Ryzen 4000 + 1660 or RTX) deals<-.

Keep an eye out for the Asus G14 - that is probably the best Ryzen laptop out there right now with a worthwhile discrete GPU. COVID has everything so messed up in the electronics world right now I am very curious to see what Black Friday sales bring.

CanadaCPU wrote: ↑
Keep an eye out for the Asus G14 - that is probably the best Ryzen laptop out there right now with a worthwhile discrete GPU. COVID has everything so messed up in the electronics world right now I am very curious to see what Black Friday sales bring.

Can't believe there's no webcam on it, if there was it would've been the perfect laptop.

kenderu wrote: ↑ Can't believe there's no webcam on it, if there was it would've been the perfect laptop.

It's a gaming focused laptop despite it's "ultrabook" form factor, which is why it doesn't have one. It also means you aren't paying for one. Easy enough to toss a clip-on webcam in your laptop bag (which will be a lot better quality anyway), but if you're someone who uses it a lot I can understand wanting one built in.

onewaylove wrote: ↑ The only flaw with this laptop is super wobbly screen.
watch few videos from youtube.

and the horrible thermals, and the horrible panel inside the screen

CanadaCPU wrote: ↑ Intel's 10th gen mobile CPUs are a nightmare and that isn't looking like it will change until at least 2022. You are going to want the Ryzen 4XXX variant regardless if you value things like performance, thermals, lower cost, and battery life.

Ryzen 5000 mobile will be available early 2021 as well and the gap will widen by a further ~20%. Exciting times to be buying a laptop compared to only a couple years ago.

Any expectations the price of RAM to drop significantly? I mentioned this before. My 2011 HP Laptop came with 6 GB of RAM and a 500 GB HD back then. It only cost under $350 or in today's dollars less than $400. I'm seeing desktops and laptops with 16 GB of RAM. Given the 9-10 year difference and normally the amount of RAM usually doubles every one or two years (Moore's Law), I expected in 2020 PC RAM to start at 24 GB RAM as a baseline. However, I see new PC Windows Laptops still being sold with only 4 GB of RAM which was less than the industry norm back in 2010/2011.

CanadaCPU wrote: ↑ Keep an eye out for the Asus G14 - that is probably the best Ryzen laptop out there right now with a worthwhile discrete GPU. COVID has everything so messed up in the electronics world right now I am very curious to see what Black Friday sales bring.

Best Buy USA is having a ridiculous sale on the R9/2060/1TB selling it for $1199 USD (~ $1575 CAD). Would love to have something anywhere close to that for the Canadian version of that model which starts at $2500 CAD. While the models are slightly different (colour and presence of the AniMe matrix), the cross border price difference is massive and frustrating. Which is in contrast to the R7/1660 version which regularly goes on sale in Canada at a very nice price.

AGTOM83 wrote: ↑ Best Buy USA is having a ridiculous sale on the R9/2060/1TB selling it for $1199 USD (~ $1575 CAD). Would love to have something anywhere close to that for the Canadian version of that model which starts at $2500 CAD. While the models are slightly different (colour and presence of the AniMe matrix), the cross border price difference is massive and frustrating. Which is in contrast to the R7/1660 version which regularly goes on sale in Canada at a very nice price.

Is G15 just as good as G14 in your opinion?

kenderu wrote: ↑ Can't believe there's no webcam on it, if there was it would've been the perfect laptop.

That's a bummer. I'ts kinda necessary right now, although I probably have a usb one laying around.

thief101 wrote: ↑ Is G15 just as good as G14 in your opinion?

This video should help you more than I could: