The link is over here for the official amazon listing. It can be ordered but it is out of stock.
It is the 4K UHD blu-ray + regular blu-ray + digital code combo.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/ ... w&qid=&sr=

regular price is usually $34.99 for Disney 4K disc + blu-ray + digital combo packs.

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:00 pm

ES_Revenge: Deal Expert; Mar 23, 2004; 28787 posts; 9257 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:00 pm

Not my cup of tea but good price!

FYI if anyone is looking for Disney 3Ds, they are two for 18 GBP @ Zavi UK right now, including this and the live-action Beauty/Beast. Works out to around $16-17 each I think, but you have to account for shipping cost as well.

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:28 pm

roedoe: Member; Jun 8, 2019; 274 posts; 353 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:28 pm

Do people buy discs anymore? I thought those are long gone. I stream all my 4k content.

I own a service with Public Mobile and with Fido. [removed solicitation]

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:47 pm

douber: Member; Feb 22, 2010; 399 posts; 309 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 3:47 pm

roedoe wrote: ↑ Do people buy discs anymore? I thought those are long gone. I stream all my 4k content.

Is 4K streaming real? Or just downgraded low-quality encoded stuff?

+6

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:09 pm

gotglint: Sr. Member; Nov 29, 2011; 885 posts; 1032 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:09 pm

roedoe wrote: ↑ Do people buy discs anymore? I thought those are long gone. I stream all my 4k content.

frame size doesn't necessarily equate to quality.

for example, the average 1080p movie online is 3-4gb. on a 1080p bluray, it is 25-30gb. so even though the resolution is the same, there is several times more image detail on a physical disc. personally i've compared my physical Criterion discs to the same titles on their streaming channel and there's def a difference. sometimes larger and more noticeable (esp movies that are darker, or having lots of shades in their lighting), but sometimes it's not noticeable enough to warrant purchasing a bluray.

for example, i watched a film by Joanna Hogg and one of the film's most emotional scenes was shot in near complete darkness. Streaming this scene completely ruined its emotional impact because the streaming encoded file just smooshed all the details in the darkness. so i was literally watching a 5 min scene where it was just chunky blocks of digital noise while i listened to the emotional audio of what was going on.

4k wise, UHD discs are around 60gbs for a movie. so roughly 30gb an hour. since streaming companies prioritize speed (so you're not waiting forever for the movie to start) and consistency (so the movie doesn't stop or stutter), there will still be a difference for streaming vs physical.

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+8

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:13 pm

umadbrah: Deal Addict; Nov 27, 2011; 2355 posts; 961 upvotes; EDMONTON

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:13 pm

Wall-E, Up, Monsters Inc., and Monsters University are third party sellers, I believe

I think I already got the original B&TB on 3D blu-ray so I got the live action version on 4K instead (also $15).

Disney's 4K releases are usually garbage upscales, btw. Even Avengers IW/EG looked like crap.

teksavvy sucks

+1

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:45 pm

MediadealsB22551: Jr. Member; Aug 18, 2018; 119 posts; 71 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:45 pm

Why buy a 8000 tv then watch low picture streams ? Discs all the way

+7

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:48 pm

MediadealsB22551: Jr. Member; Aug 18, 2018; 119 posts; 71 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 4:48 pm

I spent 3000 a month on dics steaming is so bad you can't watch even my 5 year old asks why steaming looks so bad

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:11 pm

ES_Revenge: Deal Expert; Mar 23, 2004; 28787 posts; 9257 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:11 pm

douber wrote: ↑ Is 4K streaming real? Or just downgraded low-quality encoded stuff?

It's real if you mean the resolution, sure it's 3840x2160. No denying that. But anything can be 3840x2160--you can take 720p, "record" (upscale, re-encode) to 4K and you've got a "4k source" lol. I'm not saying that's what streaming is doing but streaming has very real bandwidth concerns. These are not uncompressed video streams, none of them, even what you get on BDs is encoded with loss (i.e. lossy compression) with AVC or similar; UHD BD with HEVC. The raw video data (what goes over an HDMI cable) would be far too much data to capture on a storage medium or stream at this point in time. Compression schemes can be used to compress to varying degrees, so 4K heavily compressed with HEVC will still look poor compared to a UHD disc with much more data (less compression, less data lost or thrown out) with similar HEVC coding.

It's like taking an MP3 at 96kbps and comparing to one at the max. rate of 320kbps. They're both MP3, they're both using lossy compression, both can be the same bit-length and sample rate (e.g. 16-bit, stereo, 44.1Khz) but they will sound very different. 16-bit, 2ch, 44.1kHz gives a raw/uncompressed data rate of 1411kbps. 320kbps lossy MP3 is "transparent"* to most people while 96kbps is pretty poor quality and should be easily noticed as crap compared to the original/uncompressed source.
*By transparent I mean the person can't easily or reliably tell between the uncompressed original and the MP3-compressed version.

umadbrah wrote: ↑ Disney's 4K releases are usually garbage upscales, btw. Even Avengers IW/EG looked like crap.

Well I dunno if I'd call them "garbage" but really it doesn't look any better than the 1080p BD upscaled by the TV, provided you have a TV that doesn't have crap upscaling. But the same is true for many 4K discs, and in particular the ones that never came from 4K material. Marvel movies, due to the heavy use of special effects, CGI, etc. aren't native 4K so there's not really much you can expect. IMO 4K UHD discs are only worth buying if:
-they are a deal--either low cost in absolute terms or the same or cheaper than the regular BD
-the movie/source was native 4K or in the case of older stuff mastered from the original in 4K

Some people will blabber on about HDR

being on the 4K discs and that's true, but I don't even really like HDR that much (I feel it just makes things frosty lookin'); and, many TVs that have "HDR" support can't even get bright enough to really show it well either.

MediadealsB22551 wrote: ↑ I spent 3000 a month on dics steaming is so bad you can't watch even my 5 year old asks why steaming looks so bad

Wait what? Let's say the average 4K disc is $30, that's like 100 discs per month...every month? Surely in a few months you'd have gone through every 4K disc you could even buy lol.

+1

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:22 pm

MediadealsB22551: Jr. Member; Aug 18, 2018; 119 posts; 71 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:22 pm

Steelbook version basic version movies from other places around the world different versions

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:42 pm

LoANeal: Deal Addict; Feb 19, 2017; 2131 posts; 1539 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 5:42 pm

Max ordered that. Streaming is absolute garbage in comparison to disc quality

RFD is love. RFD is life. I wish I had an RFDer for a wife.

Apr 3rd, 2020 6:27 pm

umadbrah: Deal Addict; Nov 27, 2011; 2355 posts; 961 upvotes; EDMONTON

Apr 3rd, 2020 6:27 pm

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ It's real if you mean the resolution, sure it's 3840x2160. No denying that. But anything can be 3840x2160--you can take 720p, "record" (upscale, re-encode) to 4K and you've got a "4k source" lol. I'm not saying that's what streaming is doing but streaming has very real bandwidth concerns. These are not uncompressed video streams, none of them, even what you get on BDs is encoded with loss (i.e. lossy compression) with AVC or similar; UHD BD with HEVC. The raw video data (what goes over an HDMI cable) would be far too much data to capture on a storage medium or stream at this point in time. Compression schemes can be used to compress to varying degrees, so 4K heavily compressed with HEVC will still look poor compared to a UHD disc with much more data (less compression, less data lost or thrown out) with similar HEVC coding.

It's like taking an MP3 at 96kbps and comparing to one at the max. rate of 320kbps. They're both MP3, they're both using lossy compression, both can be the same bit-length and sample rate (e.g. 16-bit, stereo, 44.1Khz) but they will sound very different. 16-bit, 2ch, 44.1kHz gives a raw/uncompressed data rate of 1411kbps. 320kbps lossy MP3 is "transparent"* to most people while 96kbps is pretty poor quality and should be easily noticed as crap compared to the original/uncompressed source.
*By transparent I mean the person can't easily or reliably tell between the uncompressed original and the MP3-compressed version.

Well I dunno if I'd call them "garbage" but really it doesn't look any better than the 1080p BD upscaled by the TV, provided you have a TV that doesn't have crap upscaling. But the same is true for many 4K discs, and in particular the ones that never came from 4K material. Marvel movies, due to the heavy use of special effects, CGI, etc. aren't native 4K so there's not really much you can expect. IMO 4K UHD discs are only worth buying if:
-they are a deal--either low cost in absolute terms or the same or cheaper than the regular BD
-the movie/source was native 4K or in the case of older stuff mastered from the original in 4K

Some people will blabber on about HDR being on the 4K discs and that's true, but I don't even really like HDR that much (I feel it just makes things frosty lookin'); and, many TVs that have "HDR" support can't even get bright enough to really show it well either.

Wait what? Let's say the average 4K disc is $30, that's like 100 discs per month...every month? Surely in a few months you'd have gone through every 4K disc you could even buy lol.

It wasn't just the resolution, the colors lacked any real pop compared to movie releases by Sony or Fox. Disney are just straight up lazy with their 4K transfers. A lot of Disney releases don't even have Dolby Atmos or DTS tracks. HDR can be amazing if it is done right but it falls on the studio to put it together. Disney, however, is not one of those companies that care about putting out a quality 4K release. It's just meant to make them money.

teksavvy sucks

Apr 3rd, 2020 11:44 pm

douber: Member; Feb 22, 2010; 399 posts; 309 upvotes

Apr 3rd, 2020 11:44 pm

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ It's real if you mean the resolution, sure it's 3840x2160. No denying that. But anything can be 3840x2160--you can take 720p, "record" (upscale, re-encode) to 4K and you've got a "4k source" lol. I'm not saying that's what streaming is doing but streaming has very real bandwidth concerns. These are not uncompressed video streams, none of them, even what you get on BDs is encoded with loss (i.e. lossy compression) with AVC or similar; UHD BD with HEVC. The raw video data (what goes over an HDMI cable) would be far too much data to capture on a storage medium or stream at this point in time. Compression schemes can be used to compress to varying degrees, so 4K heavily compressed with HEVC will still look poor compared to a UHD disc with much more data (less compression, less data lost or thrown out) with similar HEVC coding.

It's like taking an MP3 at 96kbps and comparing to one at the max. rate of 320kbps. They're both MP3, they're both using lossy compression, both can be the same bit-length and sample rate (e.g. 16-bit, stereo, 44.1Khz) but they will sound very different. 16-bit, 2ch, 44.1kHz gives a raw/uncompressed data rate of 1411kbps. 320kbps lossy MP3 is "transparent"* to most people while 96kbps is pretty poor quality and should be easily noticed as crap compared to the original/uncompressed source.
*By transparent I mean the person can't easily or reliably tell between the uncompressed original and the MP3-compressed version.

Yes, you got my sarcastic point.

I prefer buying a UHD disc with more data rather than having to watch compressed video full of artefacts. And since you bring the MP3 comparison, I also prefer physical media for the LPCM sound track (ok, it's not always available, but mostly compared to streaming).

+1

Apr 4th, 2020 4:31 pm

Dave_Ajax: Jr. Member; Oct 24, 2009; 191 posts; 177 upvotes; Brighton, Ontario

Apr 4th, 2020 4:31 pm

roedoe wrote: ↑ Do people buy discs anymore? I thought those are long gone. I stream all my 4k content.

Why is it that every disk deal thread gets some variation on this comment? Enough already. If you're happy with streamed quality, why are you even viewing a disk deal thread?

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