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[Amazon.ca] Breville Café Roma Espresso Machine $129.99

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[Amazon.ca] Breville Café Roma Espresso Machine $129.99

Pretty good little machine. I’ve had mine for 4 years used daily still going strong.

Lowest price this year according CCC.
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My Amazon history indicates I bought this back in 2010. The heating block went just after the 1 year warranty and then it made mud water. The foam tool was always crap. I wouldn't waste my money on it, unless this is your first espresso machine and you just want to dip your toes a little.
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I had this machine before and to be honest, it doesn't have enough pressure to pull proper espresso shots. It's good enough for lattes with the dual-wall filter but that's not really espresso.

It's definitely a fun machine to understand how to make espresso and the frother that it comes with is okay if you build enough pressure with a hack (turn the switch halfway between the centre and the steam setting until the yellow light goes on and leave it there to build pressure and then turn to the actual setting). That hack works to build pressure for espresso as well by the way...

I'd say, save your money till you can get the BES840XL or BES870XL on sale. It's a world of difference.
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deus wrote: I had this machine before and to be honest, it doesn't have enough pressure to pull proper espresso shots. It's good enough for lattes with the dual-wall filter but that's not really espresso.

It's definitely a fun machine to understand how to make espresso and the frother that it comes with is okay if you build enough pressure with a hack (turn the switch halfway between the centre and the steam setting until the yellow light goes on and leave it there to build pressure and then turn to the actual setting). That hack works to build pressure for espresso as well by the way...

I'd say, save your money till you can get the BES840XL or BES870XL on sale. It's a world of difference.
I used to sell and repair espresso machine for a living. Just for your information, the BES840XL and BES870XL use the same ULKA water pump as this ESP8XL. In fact, the first versions of the BES840XL also used the same thermoblock header. There should be plenty of pressure, and it certainly sound like you were using ground coffee that was not grinded the proper size, or your machine was defective (Bad pump, leaking block, ...)

It is possible to install a slightly stronger pump in this model. The dual wall filter is extremely cheap, a common "error" is that sometime people poke the output hole a bit too much and they enlarge it, resulting in lack of pressure.
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thelasthunter wrote: My Amazon history indicates I bought this back in 2010. The heating block went just after the 1 year warranty and then it made mud water. The foam tool was always crap. I wouldn't waste my money on it, unless this is your first espresso machine and you just want to dip your toes a little.
The heating block going bad after a year usually happen when the machine was not descaled properly as often as it should. These cheaper model are fragile!
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InvaIid wrote: I used to sell and repair espresso machine for a living. Just for your information, the BES840XL and BES870XL use the same ULKA water pump as this ESP8XL. In fact, the first versions of the BES840XL also used the same thermoblock header. There should be plenty of pressure, and it certainly sound like you were using ground coffee that was not grinded the proper size, or your machine was defective (Bad pump, leaking block, ...)

It is possible to install a slightly stronger pump in this model. The dual wall filter is extremely cheap, a common "error" is that sometime people poke the output hole a bit too much and they enlarge it, resulting in lack of pressure.
It's quite interesting that they use the same pump. I cannot explain why it's different because I got frustrated with it and flipped it. Perhaps the pre-infusion helps on the 840?

I had a Sette 270 that I was using to grind fresh beans... I seriously doubt that my grind size was the problem.

Like I said, the ESP8XL is fine... it's just that the 840/870 have better features such as the auto-purge, control of pulls by volume, an actual PID that you can use to change temp etc.
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deus wrote: It's quite interesting that they use the same pump. I cannot explain why it's different because I got frustrated with it and flipped it. Perhaps the pre-infusion helps on the 840?

I had a Sette 270 that I was using to grind fresh beans... I seriously doubt that my grind size was the problem.

Like I said, the ESP8XL is fine... it's just that the 840/870 have better features such as the auto-purge, control of pulls by volume, an actual PID that you can use to change temp etc.
Pre-infusion could help but the real purpose is to get the whole puck of ground coffee wet, making sure there won't be any "unused" ground when you are done infusing (You might have noticed a few spot in your ground puck, back in your esp8xl days, where the puck was "dry")
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Ive been using one everyday for the last 2 years and it does great coffee for the price. I always put filtered water in it and descale it every 6 month or so. I grind my coffee with the breville burr grinder. Its not 2000-3000$ coffee geek equipment, but it's pretty good for my need.
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Price is very good, but that thing is louder then a chopper.. At least my was before I gave it away cuz it would wake everyone if I tried to make a shot early in the morning.....

[Have no such issue with my DeLonghi.]
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I love this thing. Highly recommended. No problems from me after 4 years. I guess the frother could be faster but it does the trick

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