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Hm so even after checking im still confused as if it will work. It seems like my condo has alit of wires that may not be required?
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Menace wrote: Just get Honeywell Wifi Thermostat, $89 from Lowes. It works with Alexa.
Not everyone wants compatibility with Alexa
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vanfc3s wrote: question: will this work on a 2 wire thermostat?

im in BC and I have about 5 old mercury thermostat connecting to water heating.

thanks in advamce
read previous comments, already said require C wire to work, 2 wires doesn't work with this 4th generation

https://store.google.com/widget/compati ... thermostat

or pre order the nest power connector
https://store.google.com/ca/product/nes ... r?hl=en-CA
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As to let you guys know, amazon.ca seems to have stop shipping stuff. I don't know if it's just me. But I ordered something on May 7 and as of today it is still "Not yet shipped". Then I ordered something a few days ago and it's also "Not yet shipped". They usually ship things very quickly. If it's just me then I have no idea why. I've never have any problem with them before...
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Easyjob wrote: As to let you guys know, amazon.ca seems to have stop shipping stuff. I don't know if it's just me. But I ordered something on May 7 and as of today it is still "Not yet shipped". Then I ordered something a few days ago and it's also "Not yet shipped". They usually ship things very quickly. If it's just me then I have no idea why. I've never have any problem with them before...
due to covid i think one warehouse was forced to close down for a few days. Badly backlogged at this point
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o1Jeff wrote: Hm so even after checking im still confused as if it will work. It seems like my condo has alit of wires that may not be required?
GI GM GH are the 3 fan speed wires. I think.
C Control wire
W/Y Heating
Y/A cooling
R power
Dunno about the other ones.

Here's the thing, if you open up the cover of the HVAC system where you change the filter, there is a schematic diagram which will identify some of proprietary wires. Some weird thermostats have a control wire for the fan speeds which wont be used in the Nest.

You can also find the model number of the thermostat and brand and find the manual online to be sure. You have to be sure this is a 24Volt system. If this turns out to be exactly 3 fan speed wires then likely you need Nest 3. I do not believe Nest 4 takes in 3 wires. You want to maintain the ability to change to 3 fan speeds so that it is equivalent in functionality to units around you.
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esq05 wrote: Really? I had a nest before and have an ecobee now... I can't even turn on the furnace fan on a timer (e.g. the furnace fan on for 30 min). I've emailed ecobee about this and all I get is, "we'll definitely forward this feedback to our product teams" etc
I have the same experiences as you. I started with an eco bee and hated it. Disconnected all the time and hated it. Then I moved, got a Nest, and it works all the time.
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Don't get it for a condo there is no benefit other than looking cute and you will have to rewire every season.
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simplealgebra wrote: I think it only works for central heating. Not baseboard
Ah ok. Thanks for letting me know.

My mobility is pretty limited and I was hoping I could control my heat with my phone, like I can with my ac and lights
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Sneakarus wrote: Don't get it for a condo there is no benefit other than looking cute and you will have to rewire every season.
I would agree except for scheduling the cooling/heating, and maybe see the humidity level there is no benefit. As for rewiring, either you're misinformed or you're confused on how to install this.

You dont need to rewire it every season. That's why you have heating and cooling separate wires. You do have to manually switch between heating and cooling just like the thermostat it replaces. But no, no rewiring is needed after the first install.
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nicolascon wrote: Ah ok. Thanks for letting me know.

My mobility is pretty limited and I was hoping I could control my heat with my phone, like I can with my ac and lights
You can with other smart thermostats. Mysa and Sinopé both make thermostats for baseboard heaters. They work with Google assistant as well. Just make sure you check the wattage of your baseboards. Mysa has a max of 3800W I think. Sinopé makes a 3000W version and a 4000W version
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Sadly I wish that was the case for every condo building, I had a few AC guys take a look at it, I will let them know that they are misinformed and don't know what they are doing.
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are you telling me every thermostat in your building right now needs to be rewired very season? It's the exact same wires going to both thermostats.

No, I dont believe what you were told. It's unheard of.
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icyyicee wrote: Well, i'm not saying Ecobee is perfect either, but at the very least, I didn't have to reset the internet connection once every 3 months or so.

The internet / account reset issue is not a singled out issue, because of my line of work, I've been recommending smart thermostat to my clients all these time. Most Enbridge customers will get the Nest device and most of the time my clients will have issue with the internet / account setting ;)
I had internet issues with nest but fixed once I replaced my router. Worked perfectly fine. I got the ecobee free, and have hated since. I have to put my nest back. I never used the smart features, but having access to control the fan was a huge thing for me. It's been, I would say, 3 years and nothing from ecobee. I sometimes see a glitch in the software and there is some fan control but nothing I can use. I have to manually turn fan on and off.

Also, ecobee has huge network issues and not my home network. There have been lots of times where their cloud has been down and I can't control anything. And to cap it off, there have been times where their cloud is fine but they don't recognize my account (I think they have a different server for verification and different one to control the ecobee).... To the point where I've reset an ecobee in the middle of the night only for then to be told their activation servers are down. It's been a PIA unfortunately and don't recommend it all to anyone anymore.

It also annoys me they moved into smart light switch and cameras without even finishing their core product.

Anyways, thanks for letting me vent.
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Mainly got this to control via voice or remotely via app. It works well for that.

Not sure about others but the eco leaf is useless. Even if I have it on eco temp when away, nothing happens.

The smart reminder to change your filter based on use is also useless - it's been 6 months and still no notifications. I changed my filter 3 months in but was surprised nest didn't send any notification still.
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boons1 wrote: i bought my ecobee from home depot after price matching from amazon, then using the 75$ enbridge discount. of course, that's when stores were open, could give the online customer service a try
Most of Canada has open stores.
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icyyicee wrote: Well, i'm not saying Ecobee is perfect either, but at the very least, I didn't have to reset the internet connection once every 3 months or so.

The internet / account reset issue is not a singled out issue, because of my line of work, I've been recommending smart thermostat to my clients all these time. Most Enbridge customers will get the Nest device and most of the time my clients will have issue with the internet / account setting ;)
Perhaps YMMV? I've had both my nest installed for over 5 years... never had to reset either of them. Both of them work whenever I wanted or needed them. I've never had to worry about them at all...
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icyyicee wrote: Well, i'm not saying Ecobee is perfect either, but at the very least, I didn't have to reset the internet connection once every 3 months or so.

The internet / account reset issue is not a singled out issue, because of my line of work, I've been recommending smart thermostat to my clients all these time. Most Enbridge customers will get the Nest device and most of the time my clients will have issue with the internet / account setting ;)
I've been using Nest for over 5 years and haven't had that issue before. I think I might have reset my internet connection maybe 2x time during that period.
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icyyicee wrote: Nest thermostats look really nice, but Ecobee is way more reliable and functional.

I've had both and Ecobee is the only one who's making a thermostat here.
Have never had nest not work. What’s with the reliability comment?

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