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Good find! Though it's OOS at KMS in store, they might deny you for this but it's worth a try.xgoosex wrote: ↑ Good price, but it is currently $370 at KMS and if you can get Home Depot to price match, it'll cost you $333. I think it's worth a try.
https://www.kmstools.com/index.php?main ... _id=123289
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/king-i ... 1001552460
As Charlton points out, this isn't really "spiral" from the stance that the cutting blades are angled to the piece being jointed. It has the advantage that each cutter has four edges and that you can replace them individually, but tear-out will be nearly as prominent with this as it is with full length knives. That said, I actually own this one too (paid more than this though
) and I'm happy with it. My only complaint is that because the table is so short, if you're jointing long planks, it's a challenge to get full length straight edges - with pine, not a big deal as you can pull edge-glued pine together with sufficient clamping strength. I did a desk with 2" thick hickory and suffice it to say, clamps aren't up to the task of pulling that together! I had to do some jointing with some handplanes (which is fun to do).I agree but this shouldn't be a complaint about the jointer considering this is a benchtop jointer! People who buy this buy it because they don't have space for a long bed.hoody123 wrote: ↑ As Charlton points out, this isn't really "spiral" from the stance that the cutting blades are angled to the piece being jointed. It has the advantage that each cutter has four edges and that you can replace them individually, but tear-out will be nearly as prominent with this as it is with full length knives. That said, I actually own this one too (paid more than this though
Well, I'm not really complaining about the jointer per se but I think it's important to point out that the virtues of a typical spiral/helical cutter are lost on this one and people may see this jointer and think they are getting better performance in figured wood. In actuality, it isn't likely to do any better than straight knives. What *IS* a benefit with indexable cutters is their longevity (if they are carbide) and their ease of setup (no small jointer like this is going to be using Tersa knives). Anyway, not trying to knock the jointer for being anything beyond what it is.Jon Lai wrote: ↑ I agree but this shouldn't be a complaint about the jointer considering this is a benchtop jointer! People who buy this buy it because they don't have space for a long bed.
I tried once with infeed and outfeed rollers. Manageable but not perfect and still awkward to do.
Luckily I got a track saw now
I suspect that most people buy it because it's considerably cheaper than a stationary long bed.Jon Lai wrote: ↑ I agree but this shouldn't be a complaint about the jointer considering this is a benchtop jointer! People who buy this buy it because they don't have space for a long bed.
I tried once with infeed and outfeed rollers. Manageable but not perfect and still awkward to do.
Luckily I got a track saw now
I suspect that because the knifes are only cutting about 1" total width at any one time it's likely to produce less surface ripple, vibration and is less demanding on the motor, cutter head and other drive components.Charlton wrote: ↑ Well, I'm not really complaining about the jointer per se but I think it's important to point out that the virtues of a typical spiral/helical cutter are lost on this one and people may see this jointer and think they are getting better performance in figured wood. In actuality, it isn't likely to do any better than straight knives. What *IS* a benefit with indexable cutters is their longevity (if they are carbide) and their ease of setup (no small jointer like this is going to be using Tersa knives). Anyway, not trying to knock the jointer for being anything beyond what it is.
Same with the King. Especially when I edge joint width boards and can't see where the fence is...Jerico wrote: ↑ Virtually the same unit was sold under the Ryobi and Craftsman names for years. I have the Ryobi version (Jp155) and my buddy the craftsman. His craftsman the fence is very pointy and I have skinned my knuckles a few times on it. The Ryobi has holes for wing extensions and has a variable speed motor (Which is useful). My only real issues with these machines is the length of the bed and the pita of changing blades and making sure they are all even.
I watched the video and the fence looks identical. Was using my friends on the weekend as I have a small chip in my blades and could not understand why my walnut was red. Then I saw my hand and assumed I had lost it there was so much blood. From a tiny little scratch I can no longer see on Tuesday evening (from Saturday)
More than once I had blood on my hands (not just from this but from other things as well, mostly tiny cuts fortunately) and only found out when I saw it on the wood. Never understood why I didn't feel it before seeing it. Before getting into woodworking I would most definitely feel it before I see it :shrugs:Jerico wrote: ↑ I watched the video and the fence looks identical. Was using my friends on the weekend as I have a small chip in my blades and could not understand why my walnut was red. Then I saw my hand and assumed I had lost it there was so much blood. From a tiny little scratch I can no longer see on Tuesday evening (from Saturday)
