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[Amazon.ca] Monoprice Access Series 12 Gauge/ 50ft Speaker Wire/Cable - $ 20.86

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[Amazon.ca] Monoprice Access Series 12 Gauge/ 50ft Speaker Wire/Cable - $ 20.86

Monoprice Access Series 12 Gauge AWG CL2 Rated 2 Conductor Speaker Wire/Cable - 50ft Fire Safety in Wall Rated, Jacketed in White PVC Material 99.9% Oxygen-Free Pure Bare Copper $ 20.86

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Good price for 12 GA wire. Might be too big depending on your application. I had bough the amazon basics 14 gauge and was a tough install for the ceiling speakers we were using. The spring clips just weren't big enough.

This is the limit for most banana plugs as well.
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12 Awg speaker wire is very large for most applications. Unless you've got a slammin' setup you probably only need 16 or 14 awg at most.
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Paid around $35 for 100" of 14 gauge version of this a while ago, the cable jackets even on 14 are really fat. You'd have to have an extremely long run for it to make even the slightest difference.
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S0Lguy wrote: 12 Awg speaker wire is very large for most applications. Unless you've got a slammin' setup you probably only need 16 or 14 awg at most.
Agreed, but if you can get 12 gauge at that price, then why not?

I paid $23.50 for this stuff a month back because I wanted pure copper.
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fudge_u wrote: Agreed, but if you can get 12 gauge at that price, then why not?

I paid $23.50 for this stuff a month back because I wanted pure copper.
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Why not, for the reason listed above lol

Too big to fit in spring clips and potentially (very?) tight fit in banana plugs depending on types, hard to work with, need to drill larger holes in wall, not as malleable/harder to bend lol.
It's going to be so bulky behind the AC receivers with that THICC of cables hah
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Any downside using this for current? Need fews feets for 10-15-15 amps for a small diy project
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koontzy wrote: Any downside using this for current? Need fews feets for 10-15-15 amps for a small diy project
15 amps you should just be using Romex no? The gauge of this speaker wire is probably fine but I don't think the jackets on it are made expecting it to actually heat up any.
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Daijoubu wrote: Why not, for the reason listed above lol

Too big to fit in spring clips and (very) tight fit in banana plugs, hard to work with, need to drill larger holes in wall, not as malleable/harder to bend lol.
It's going to be so bulky behind the AC receivers with that THICC of cables hah
lol.... good point about the banana plugs. Didn't realize it was an in-wall cable. My bad.
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koontzy wrote: Any downside using this for current? Need fews feets for 10-15-15 amps for a small diy project
It's speaker wire. The insulation is not rated for AC power.
If you're using this for low voltage, then sure. If you're using this for 110V/220V, then no.

I'd try to call my local home depot or hardware store and ask if I can pickup X metres of wire. Then you can something suitable for your application.
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Actually I want something a bit flexible for 12V DC
I was planning on using 14-16-18 but for this price, why not Face With Tears Of Joy
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Daijoubu wrote: Why not, for the reason listed above lol

Too big to fit in spring clips and (very) tight fit in banana plugs, hard to work with, need to drill larger holes in wall, not as malleable/harder to bend lol.
It's going to be so bulky behind the AC receivers with that THICC of cables hah
Interesting. I bought some other 12AWG monoprice speaker wire a while back. Fit with these fine. https://www.amazon.ca/Banana-FosPower-P ... 06Y8YL2DM/
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BootstrapX wrote: Just for comparison, the Princessauto sells 50ft 18 gauge for $10 in surplus. https://www.princessauto.com/en/50-ft-1 ... 0008767543 A few weeks ago the same wire was less than $8 .... I know because I bought one.
I think 16 gauge is recommended for short runs, and either 12 or 14 for longer runs.
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Nice, I suppose it depends on the banana plug types
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How long your runs in 2021 are going to be? This is not 1985 when the sound system of the entire house was wired from a single amp in the basement.
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BootstrapX wrote: How long your runs in 2021 are going to be? This is not 1985 when the sound system of the entire house was wired from a single amp in the basement.
I could still see myself running some in-ceiling speakers powered by a Sonos Amp for a truly invisible look, but mostly people will be served with a bunch of smart speakers scattered around the house

The only exception is home theater, you still need to run front to back and into the ceiling for Atmos system. Still need a lot of cabling in that case.
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14AWG copper is good up to 48ft max into 8ohm load with 3% max cable loss, maybe if you have a HUGE HT
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warpdrive wrote: I could still see myself running some in-ceiling speakers powered by a Sonos Amp for a truly invisible look, but mostly people will be served with a bunch of smart speakers scattered around the house

The only exception is home theater, you still need to run front to back and into the ceiling for Atmos system. Still need a lot of cabling in that case.
I don't mean to turn this thread into a religious war, but I think if you are going to use a few satellite speakers on the other side of the recreation room, the 18 gauge copper wire should be just fine. Especially taking into account double difference in the price. The RFD is all about the bang for the buck, right?

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