[Amazon.ca] NETGEAR Orbi RBK33 WiFi Mesh System (3 Satellites) - $399

Feb 20th, 2018 4:33 pm

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rraj2k9 [OP]: Deal Addict; Dec 11, 2009; 1449 posts; 254 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 4:33 pm

[Amazon.ca] NETGEAR Orbi RBK33 WiFi Mesh System (3 Satellites) - $399

Deal Link:: https://www.amazon.ca/NETGEAR-Orbi-WiFi ... tgear+orbi
Price:: 399
Savings:: 120
Retailer:: Amazon Canada

For any one looking into investing into a Wireless MESH WiFi system, this is probably one of the best deals out there right now.
Mainly because this system comes with an Orbi Router and 2 Wall-plug Satellites. Essentially giving three satellites for 399

The Netgear ORBI is the best rated Wi-Fi Mesh system in the market, along with with Linksys VELOP system.
Smallnetbuilder did a roundup including the RBK30 (1 Router + Wall-plug) and RBK40 (1 Router + 1 Satellite) and concluded the RBK30 to be the better performer.
https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireles ... l=&start=4

The only downside to this Orbi system is that, the wall-plug satellites do not have any Ethernet ports, so where ever you put these satellites you will be limited to Wi-Fi unless you add a wireless bridge for Ethernet connectivity.

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Feb 20th, 2018 5:00 pm

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8008135: Sr. Member; Oct 17, 2010; 841 posts; 447 upvotes; Edmonton

Feb 20th, 2018 5:00 pm

I don't know why this system is still labeled as a mesh system when it isn't even mesh; it's hub and spoke. That being said I've tried it and wasn't impressed. I also tried the Amplifi HD mesh system (using 2 amplifi routers) and it was light years better than the Orbi.

+1

Feb 20th, 2018 5:28 pm

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R35gtr: Sr. Member; Apr 23, 2016; 511 posts; 542 upvotes; Kelowna

Feb 20th, 2018 5:28 pm

8008135 wrote: ↑ I don't know why this system is still labeled as a mesh system when it isn't even mesh; it's hub and spoke. That being said I've tried it and wasn't impressed. I also tried the Amplifi HD mesh system (using 2 amplifi routers) and it was light years better than the Orbi.

I've installed a few ubiquiti ap's recently, and from the research I've done, the amplifi HD mesh is far superior to the orbi. It seems to be the benchmark for residential mesh networks. I've never worked with their mesh systems directly, but I can speak to the quality of Ubiquiti overall. Very great products at good prices.

Feb 20th, 2018 5:33 pm

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ktkn: Deal Addict; Nov 29, 2006; 1520 posts; 855 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 5:33 pm

Before the Orbi Satellites needed to connect directly to the main router, but now they can daisy chain and connect off each other...

+2

Feb 20th, 2018 5:54 pm

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X24Secret: Deal Addict; Aug 19, 2011; 4218 posts; 3143 upvotes; Markham

Feb 20th, 2018 5:54 pm

8008135 wrote: ↑ I don't know why this system is still labeled as a mesh system when it isn't even mesh; it's hub and spoke. That being said I've tried it and wasn't impressed. I also tried the Amplifi HD mesh system (using 2 amplifi routers) and it was light years better than the Orbi.

The biggest issue with Amplifi HD is it lacks wired backhaul between slaves and master.

I believe Orbi finally got this capablity few months ago which is a game changer, although not with the wall plug modules in this kit. It requires the full size sattelites.

Feb 20th, 2018 6:07 pm

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shayne85: Deal Addict; Jun 28, 2017; 2026 posts; 1520 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 6:07 pm

ktkn wrote: ↑ Before the Orbi Satellites needed to connect directly to the main router, but now they can daisy chain and connect off each other...

Since when?

Feb 20th, 2018 6:11 pm

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jaydubz: Member; Feb 2, 2017; 480 posts; 586 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 6:11 pm

shayne85 wrote: ↑ Since when?

Probably December?
https://kb.netgear.com/000048458/What-i ... iFi-System

Feb 20th, 2018 6:11 pm

#8

rebel_rfd: Deal Fanatic; Aug 4, 2008; 5189 posts; 1960 upvotes; Toronto

Feb 20th, 2018 6:11 pm

shayne85 wrote: ↑ Since when?

Since Firmware update.

Plus you can use Ethernet backhaul with them.

+1

Feb 20th, 2018 6:55 pm

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keyser-soze: Deal Addict; Oct 8, 2009; 2111 posts; 1313 upvotes; Kitchener

Feb 20th, 2018 6:55 pm

jaydubz wrote: ↑ Probably December?
https://kb.netgear.com/000048458/What-i ... iFi-System

rebel_rfd wrote: ↑ Since Firmware update.

Plus you can use Ethernet backhaul with them.

That's sweep

Feb 20th, 2018 6:55 pm

#10

keyser-soze: Deal Addict; Oct 8, 2009; 2111 posts; 1313 upvotes; Kitchener

Feb 20th, 2018 6:55 pm

jaydubz wrote: ↑ Probably December?
https://kb.netgear.com/000048458/What-i ... iFi-System

rebel_rfd wrote: ↑ Since Firmware update.

Plus you can use Ethernet backhaul with them.

That's awesome

Feb 20th, 2018 7:24 pm

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shayne85: Deal Addict; Jun 28, 2017; 2026 posts; 1520 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 7:24 pm

So it’s exactly like Google WiFi now - nice.

Feb 20th, 2018 7:34 pm

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X24Secret: Deal Addict; Aug 19, 2011; 4218 posts; 3143 upvotes; Markham

Feb 20th, 2018 7:34 pm

shayne85 wrote: ↑ So it’s exactly like Google WiFi now - nice.

Really? So in your view a Dual Band router (Google WiFi) and a Tri-band router with dedicated wireless backhaul (Orbi) are exactly the same?

Feb 20th, 2018 7:52 pm

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shayne85: Deal Addict; Jun 28, 2017; 2026 posts; 1520 upvotes

Feb 20th, 2018 7:52 pm

X24Secret wrote: ↑ Really? So in your view a Dual Band router (Google WiFi) and a Tri-band router with dedicated wireless backhaul (Orbi) are exactly the same?

Yes I have only two Wireless AC devices, my iPhone and iPad, which are both still only 2x2 MIMO. All my other devices, 2 desktops, 2 laptops, Roku, Fire TV, old iPad, Android tablet are all Wireless N, some only 2.4 GHz Wireless N so those have no way to take advantage of the “Tri-band”.

Maybe if I had 95 wireless devices and I was steaming 4K video, it’d matter. I unfortunately have only 1080p TVs.

Feb 20th, 2018 8:03 pm

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QuickFingers: Sr. Member; Dec 15, 2017; 658 posts; 1005 upvotes; Vancouver

Feb 20th, 2018 8:03 pm

X24Secret wrote: ↑ Really? So in your view a Dual Band router (Google WiFi) and a Tri-band router with dedicated wireless backhaul (Orbi) are exactly the same?

I compared the Google Wifi with my $400 Linksys EA9500 Max-Stream AC5400 wifi router in a 2 level home and I did not see any gain with Google Wifi. Returned it the same day to BestBuy and save my money for something better however I did set up a Netgear Orbi for one of my clients in a brand new 3 level house that had glass railings along the staircase and coverage from the main family room to downstairs theater room was improved. So I was pretty impressed with the Netgear Orbi with the first time setup through an easy to use app. I still like Ubiquiti products though and I am waiting on checking out the Huawei hybrid mesh system too.

Feb 20th, 2018 10:35 pm

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8008135: Sr. Member; Oct 17, 2010; 841 posts; 447 upvotes; Edmonton

Feb 20th, 2018 10:35 pm

X24Secret wrote: ↑ The biggest issue with Amplifi HD is it lacks wired backhaul between slaves and master.

I believe Orbi finally got this capablity few months ago which is a game changer, although not with the wall plug modules in this kit. It requires the full size sattelites.

If you use 2 Amplifi routers (that's what I did) then you can have wired backhaul.

Feb 20th, 2018 11:54 pm

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X24Secret: Deal Addict; Aug 19, 2011; 4218 posts; 3143 upvotes; Markham

Feb 20th, 2018 11:54 pm

shayne85 wrote: ↑ Yes I have only two Wireless AC devices, my iPhone and iPad, which are both still only 2x2 MIMO. All my other devices, 2 desktops, 2 laptops, Roku, Fire TV, old iPad, Android tablet are all Wireless N, some only 2.4 GHz Wireless N so those have no way to take advantage of the “Tri-band”.

Maybe if I had 95 wireless devices and I was steaming 4K video, it’d matter. I unfortunately have only 1080p TVs.

The third band in the "Tri-Band" on Orbi doesn't work the way you think like on regular routers. Orbi uses a dedicated radio for wireless comm between the two satellites, separating client traffic from satellite traffic.

+1

Feb 20th, 2018 11:56 pm

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X24Secret: Deal Addict; Aug 19, 2011; 4218 posts; 3143 upvotes; Markham

Feb 20th, 2018 11:56 pm

8008135 wrote: ↑ If you use 2 Amplifi routers (that's what I did) then you can have wired backhaul.

Can you put this router in AP mode? I'm tempted to try two out as price isn't too bad at about $130 USD but it has to work with my current router. I wish they had dropped the screen in favor of cost savings...

Feb 21st, 2018 12:19 am

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tomatoonline: Deal Addict; Mar 30, 2010; 2528 posts; 364 upvotes; Burnaby

Feb 21st, 2018 12:19 am

good to know. but will try linksys velop in future.

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Feb 21st, 2018 11:33 am

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8008135: Sr. Member; Oct 17, 2010; 841 posts; 447 upvotes; Edmonton

Feb 21st, 2018 11:33 am

X24Secret wrote: ↑ Can you put this router in AP mode? I'm tempted to try two out as price isn't too bad at about $130 USD but it has to work with my current router. I wish they had dropped the screen in favor of cost savings...

It has a bridge mode feature, not sure if this is what you're looking for though.

Feb 21st, 2018 6:49 pm

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r1lee: Deal Fanatic; Jan 17, 2003; 8644 posts; 1097 upvotes

Feb 21st, 2018 6:49 pm

X24Secret wrote: ↑ The biggest issue with Amplifi HD is it lacks wired backhaul between slaves and master.

I believe Orbi finally got this capablity few months ago which is a game changer, although not with the wall plug modules in this kit. It requires the full size sattelites.

Yes, from what I read the amplifi uses the 2.4ghz for the connection. I’d rather have it connected through a power line or a proprietary communication frequency, so that both bands are available.