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NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System (RBK23) $349.99

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Foku wrote: Got this unit at Walmart yesterday for $250, it is a clearance item.
Same price at Walmart Oakville
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lakesarecool wrote: I'm in the same camp. I've installed and use plenty of Unifi equipment at work. Unifi is really great for a work environment and large homes. I still went with Orbi for home use due to ease of set up and maintenance and surprisingly better range than the Unifi Nano HD's I trialed before going with Orbi. There is a reason Ubiquiti released Amplifi to try and compete with the home market instead of pushing Unifi.

I fully dropped Eero after major issues with signal performance, connection drops, etc, but I did not try the Eero Pro and I know there are many happy Eero users.You will see others say that had nothing but problems with Orbi but are very happy with Eero.

Prior to Orbi I had an Asus setup with multiple AP's and it worked well for 5+ years. From an ease of use and setup standpoint for the non tech savvy user, I would say that Orbi and Eero would probably win over Asus if that's a factor for you.
Thanks for a well informed opinion. +1

I have also noticed that most of the issues are either user errors or early-product release bugs that have been resolved (and hence satisfaction from other users) across most brands.
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lakesarecool wrote: I'm in the same camp. I've installed and use plenty of Unifi equipment at work. Unifi is really great for a work environment and large homes. I still went with Orbi for home use due to ease of set up and maintenance and surprisingly better range than the Unifi Nano HD's I trialed before going with Orbi. There is a reason Ubiquiti released Amplifi to try and compete with the home market instead of pushing Unifi.

I fully dropped Eero after major issues with signal performance, connection drops, etc, but I did not try the Eero Pro and I know there are many happy Eero users.You will see others say that had nothing but problems with Orbi but are very happy with Eero.

Prior to Orbi I had an Asus setup with multiple AP's and it worked well for 5+ years. From an ease of use and setup standpoint for the non tech savvy user, I would say that Orbi and Eero would probably win over Asus if that's a factor for you.
Which model of Orbi you would recommend? RBK23 OR RBK50
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steivewonder88 wrote: Same price at Walmart Oakville
Isn't Oakville sold out? It's pretty much sold out everywhere except Aurora. Try to get my hands on it but Aurora is way too far
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This is on Rogers Ignite and I’m a few rooms over from the satellite but I’ve seen close to 600Mbps down when closer. With the Rogers Hitron I would get ~150, Google ~125, Eero ~160, Asus AiMesh ~175 in this room. Google was 3 node setup where as Eero was 2.
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I grabbed one at about 2:30 this afternoon in Oakville. Not sure if anymore left but mine was last one on shelf.
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Foku wrote: Got this unit at Walmart yesterday for $250, it is a clearance item.

Thanks OP and Foku. Got one at Walmart Northland went straight to Staples and returned it for refund. Bought the Orbi RBK23 at Staples for $380 30 days ago. :p
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anon_s wrote: 1B7B6A70-C4D8-40C3-98AA-314A18B7AA4B.png


This is on Rogers Ignite and I’m a few rooms over from the satellite but I’ve seen close to 600Mbps down when closer. With the Rogers Hitron I would get ~150, Google ~125, Eero ~160, Asus AiMesh ~175 in this room. Google was 3 node setup where as Eero was 2.
Nice! Assuming this is rbk23?
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anon_s wrote: 1B7B6A70-C4D8-40C3-98AA-314A18B7AA4B.png


This is on Rogers Ignite and I’m a few rooms over from the satellite but I’ve seen close to 600Mbps down when closer. With the Rogers Hitron I would get ~150, Google ~125, Eero ~160, Asus AiMesh ~175 in this room. Google was 3 node setup where as Eero was 2.
Can you do one from your device on fast.com? This may be nodes own speed from the app?
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Anyone have an opinion of the RB50 (ac3300) vs RB23 (rb2200) will I see a significant performance difference ?
I picked a RB50
For $350 at Walmart they won’t return if it’s open.
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tradinghumble wrote: Anyone have an opinion of the RB50 (ac3300) vs RB23 (rb2200) will I see a significant performance difference ?
I picked a RB50
For $350 at Walmart they won’t return if it’s open.
Rk50 is faster and has more Ethernet ports but I believe the $350 is with only one satilite with one router.

Rb23 is slower but not a complete slouch and comes with two satellites so can give you greater range. Doesn't have the 4 Ethernet ports but you can solve that with a unmanaged switch $15-25
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undacova wrote: Rk50 is faster and has more Ethernet ports but I believe the $350 is with only one satilite with one router.

Rb23 is slower but not a complete slouch and comes with two satellites so can give you greater range. Doesn't have the 4 Ethernet ports but you can solve that with a unmanaged switch $15-25
2nd this. I actually have the rbk50 and an extra ac2200 satelitte and I'm no pro or expert but I would say as an above avg pc and computer nerd.. All the tests and configurations I've done across devices show that the rbs50(bigger sat unit) provide around 20-30 % performance at all ranges over the smaller one.

With that said, if you're looking for coverage... The ac2200 might be better as you get more units.

BTW I'm also ethernet back hauling these. So it's a true config test and not over the air. I imagine using the wifi signals to mesh will perform slightly worse
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anon_s wrote: 1B7B6A70-C4D8-40C3-98AA-314A18B7AA4B.png


This is on Rogers Ignite and I’m a few rooms over from the satellite but I’ve seen close to 600Mbps down when closer. With the Rogers Hitron I would get ~150, Google ~125, Eero ~160, Asus AiMesh ~175 in this room. Google was 3 node setup where as Eero was 2.
Damn why such a massive difference?
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radeonboy wrote: Damn why such a massive difference?
I think he did it wrong. Its the speed test within the app, for the node vs the device. But I'd love to be wrong.
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anon_s wrote: 1B7B6A70-C4D8-40C3-98AA-314A18B7AA4B.png


This is on Rogers Ignite and I’m a few rooms over from the satellite but I’ve seen close to 600Mbps down when closer. With the Rogers Hitron I would get ~150, Google ~125, Eero ~160, Asus AiMesh ~175 in this room. Google was 3 node setup where as Eero was 2.
I think that's the speed for the node. Not to your device.

I have the Rogers Gigabit plan and I get almost 900 Mbps from the app but only 220 next to the router and 160ish next to the satellite 2 floors up with my phone wifi using Speedtest.net.
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weedb0y wrote: Can you do one from your device on fast.com? This may be nodes own speed from the app?
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Couple of iPads are doing their iOS updates in the background. Besides I did a full speedtest.net benchmark with all the systems I listed and Orbi was always best.

I don’t care about the difference between 150 or 250 as long as there are no timeouts and the throughput is consistent rather than bursty.

The thing that sold me was that I was getting consistent 30Mbps for the Nest flood light on the garage versus spotty 20Mbps with others.
bb_00 wrote: I think that's the speed for the node. Not to your device.

I have the Rogers Gigabit plan and I get almost 900 Mbps from the app but only 220 next to the router and 160ish next to the satellite 2 floors up using Speedtest.net.
You are correct. I don't have that big of a drop off though in the speeds mainly because the speedtest from my router itself is half of yours.
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Couple of iPads are doing their iOS updates in the background. Besides I did a full speedtest.net benchmark with all the systems I listed and Orbi was always best.

I don’t care about the difference between 150 or 250 as long as there are no timeouts and the throughput is consistent rather than bursty.

The thing that sold me was that I was getting consistent 30Mbps for the Nest flood light on the garage versus spotty 20Mbps with others.


You are correct. I don't have that big of a drop off though in the speeds mainly because the speedtest from my router itself is half of yours.
BTW, are you using RBK50 or RBK23? Can you PM me what your Orbi settings is like? I want to know if I can improve my speed a bit more. Thanks.
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bb_00 wrote: BTW, are you using RBK50 or RBK23? Can you PM me what your Orbi settings is like? I want to know if I can improve my speed a bit more. Thanks.
Sure, I don't remember doing much tinkering but will drop you a PM in the morning.
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vinnie1990 wrote: 2nd this. I actually have the rbk50 and an extra ac2200 satelitte and I'm no pro or expert but I would say as an above avg pc and computer nerd.. All the tests and configurations I've done across devices show that the rbs50(bigger sat unit) provide around 20-30 % performance at all ranges over the smaller one.

With that said, if you're looking for coverage... The ac2200 might be better as you get more units.

BTW I'm also ethernet back hauling these. So it's a true config test and not over the air. I imagine using the wifi signals to mesh will perform slightly worse
Would you recommend RBK50 over RBK23 at $330? Someone mentioned before with the Dell for work deal? Also, I can buy an extra satellite when there is deal down the road.
Just can't get my hands on the $250 Walmart clearance deal for RBK23. Aurora is too far to drive to.
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gtadealshunting wrote: Would you recommend RBK50 over RBK23 at $330? Someone mentioned before with the Dell for work deal? Also, I can buy an extra satellite when there is deal down the road.
Just can't get my hands on the $250 Walmart clearance deal for RBK23. Aurora is too far to drive to.
TL:DR - Yes the RBK 50 for $80 more is a no brainer. Get satellites to attach to it if your house is massive or you have a big yard.

I found it worth it (I bought both and tested them one after another, in the exact same spots) and I found the RBK50 pushed out way better signal. I have 100+ connected smart devices and found less lag when giving my Google Assistants commands like 'turn off kitchen lights' etc. For $330, its a really good price. I know people can complain about wifi 6 vs wifi 5.. but it was like when AC came to life.. took a while for devices and laptops to get all refreshed. TBH, I was going to buy the RBK852 in the US which is the Orbi AX, but with the current exchange rate.. its almost $1k CDN... I don't think the extra bit of wifi speed is going to be worth it.. I'll wait for more wifi 6 devices to come out and push that price down.. right now they are asking way too much for marginal performance. How I think of it for now

AC2200 - 400-500mbs Price $250 Performance gain n/a baseline
AC3000 - 500-700mbs Price $330 Performance gain 25-40%
AX6000 - 800-1000mbs Price $900 performance gain over 2200 100% performance gain over AC3000 - 40-60%

Is the AX worth 4x or 3x the price... I don't think so, but you be the judge.. its your money. Keep in mind, those speeds need the corresponding signal.. so you'll need AX devices to hit those (I ain't ready to shelf all my existing shit to do it).

One thing to note, the AX nighthawk did sent higher AC wifi power (at the closer ranges) and handles more users/devices nicely.. but again, the price premium is double when you factor in the mesh network (i.e. need more than 1 or 2 extra devices), so its a pass...

TBH, (again my amateur review) I did buy the nighthawk AX and tested that... it was insanely fast with the Iphone 11 Pro (which is AX) but when I took it to another floor... the signal was crap (my house is around 3000 sq ft). Compared to the RBK50... I got slower, but consistent speed. Am I maxing out my Rogers gigabit internet, with the RBK50... no, but I'm hitting the bottle neck speeds over wifi. The ethernet backhaul is amazing for office/server units and I do need more than 1 additional port (if you use the AC2200, one port is for the incoming ethernet, leaving you with 1 outbound for a device, which doesn't quite cut it for me).

Hope this helps people and kills the whole Wifi 5 vs 6... if you haven't tried it in your house for yourself.. keep your comments or false hopes to yourself. Newer isn't always better, but in this tech case, newer requires upgrades across the board to truly see the benefit. I will get wifi 6 eventually, but I personally don't think wifi is something tech early adoption benefits from (unlike smartphones and tvs etc.)
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