Petrainer PET998DB1 Dog Shock Collar Waterproof and Rechargeable 330 Yards Dog Training Collar with Vibration and Shock

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rfdfan75 wrote: ↑Dead

Deal or the doggies?

rfdfan75 wrote: ↑Dead

Still going...OP just didn't post the link to the single item.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00W6UVROK?smi ... gToDp&th=1

People actually use this.

is this... animal abuse?

A fun gift for the bedroom as well if you’re into that

Why on earth would anyone think shocking their dog is a humane way of training them when there are so many positive reinforcement methods that can be used instead?

theinfamous wrote: ↑ Why on earth would anyone think shocking their dog is a humane way of training them when there are so many positive reinforcement methods that can be used instead?

With 4 modes: static shock, vibration, beep and light

ChrisR wrote: ↑ With 4 modes: static shock, vibration, beep and light

I get there are different modes to the collar. I'm referring specifically to the shock function.

Thanks. Gag gift for my Xmas party. Betting at least 5 employees will be shocked by it.

brave post OP, prepare for the downvotes from the uninformed. e-collars are a valuable tool in dog training if you know what you're doing but as we can already see in the thread, a portion of the general population watched Simpsons episodes in the 1990s and thinks we're all out here shocking santa's little helper into submission with 200 volts rather than redirecting our dog's attention with the tiniest static shock

honestly though I don't know that I would trust a $10 e-collar considering the gold standards are the E-Collar Technologies ET300 and the Garmin Delta series, both starting at like $200. personally ive got the garmin delta xc

Spoonsy wrote: ↑ brave post OP, prepare for the downvotes from the uninformed. e-collars are a valuable tool in dog training if you know what you're doing but as we can already see in the thread, a portion of the general population watched Simpsons episodes in the 1990s and thinks we're all out here shocking santa's little helper into submission with 200 volts rather than redirecting our dog's attention with the tiniest static shock

honestly though I don't know that I would trust a $10 e-collar considering the gold standards are the E-Collar Technologies ET300 and the Garmin Delta series, both starting at like $200. personally ive got the garmin delta xc

Well said. These would be illegal if these were actually as bad as people are making it out to be, but it’s not. I have tried it on my neck before and it’s not like a shock at all and more annoying than painful. I use The Educator because a trainer recommended it to me. The funny thing is, this trainer runs a “positive reinforcement” dog training school, but in private, he uses these to train his own personal dogs and dogs in obedience competitions. A lot of other “positive reinforcement” trainers in my city use prong collars and e-collars as well.

Not every dog responds to positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement doesn’t work when my dog is chasing after a bunny/squirrel. Her prey drive kicks in and she couldn’t care less about getting a treat or praise from me. The pros far outweigh the cons. Her safety and obedience is way more important to me than trying to avoid giving her a harmless tiny little sensation on her neck that lasts a couple of seconds and goes away immediately.

ZuesArete wrote: ↑ is this... animal abuse?

No.

theinfamous wrote: ↑ Why on earth would anyone think shocking their dog is a humane way of training them when there are so many positive reinforcement methods that can be used instead?

Try teaching your dog not to eat dangerous/dirty stuffs when you're not around. Smart dogs know to act differently.

Honestly, I've tried different dog collars on myself before putting on my dog, and I'd rather get the shock collar. Lasts 1 sec, no tissue damage compared to the others.

Awesome to see all the "EXPERTS" around here

Badder wrote: ↑ I've tried different dog collars on myself , and I'd rather get the shock collar.

Keep that stuff at home buddy, this is a family forum.

Can I connect it to Alexa to wake me up

deebovich wrote: ↑ Can I connect it to Alexa to wake me up

No, only to get you stiff