[Amazon.ca] Prime Day: Seagate Expansion Desktop 10TB External Drive - Schuckable - $218.48

Oct 13th, 2020 9:15 am

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railgrinder [OP]: Member; Aug 16, 2006; 232 posts; 277 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 13th, 2020 9:15 am

[Amazon.ca] Prime Day: Seagate Expansion Desktop 10TB External Drive - Schuckable - $218.48

Deal Link:: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NPMMZ8C
Price:: $218.48
Retailer:: Amazon.ca

Update2: Price dropped slightly to $218.48 when I checked at 11:40PM.
Update1: Confirmed possible IronWolf Pros as per post# 48

This was listed on the Prime Deals for ~~$229.99~~. I picked one up last year on black friday for $199.99, pried it open and got a Barracuda Pro out of it. CMR drive for those that care. Obviously warranty goes out the window once you crack them open. I wouldn't recommend for NAS use, but good for low risk bulk storage like a home media library.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NPMMZ8C

Model: STEB10000400
Internal drive: Barracuda Pro (ST10000DM0004) or IronWolf Pro

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Oct 13th, 2020 9:34 am

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Brea: Sr. Member; Jan 7, 2011; 816 posts; 289 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 9:34 am

Would be hot if it was EXOSTAR drive

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Oct 13th, 2020 9:48 am

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Speedbeaver: Jr. Member; Sep 30, 2007; 157 posts; 108 upvotes; Saint-Constant, Qc

Oct 13th, 2020 9:48 am

Could it still be usable on a media only NAS?

Oct 13th, 2020 10:02 am

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railgrinder [OP]: Member; Aug 16, 2006; 232 posts; 277 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 13th, 2020 10:02 am

Speedbeaver wrote: ↑ Could it still be usable on a media only NAS?

Technically yes, but they're not meant to run 24/7 or have the same mechanical tolerances of dedicated NAS hardware specially if you're planning to use them in some sort of RAID configuration. Sort of like towing a camping trailer with a civic hatchback, you can technically do it and no one's going to stop you from doing it but it's not recommended. With that said, I'm sure a few people have used these in their NAS successfully without any issues.

Also the internal drive doesn't have all the standard mounting holes. I think it's missing a pair either on the side or the underside.

Oct 13th, 2020 10:11 am

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wlee: Deal Fanatic; Mar 8, 2003; 9912 posts; 2083 upvotes; Richmond Hill

Oct 13th, 2020 10:11 am

is this the PRO model?

Oct 13th, 2020 10:13 am

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evoviii: Deal Addict; Feb 17, 2005; 4922 posts; 2300 upvotes; Markham

Oct 13th, 2020 10:13 am

Wait another month for the $199.99 or better

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Oct 13th, 2020 10:14 am

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contva: Member; Apr 20, 2017; 254 posts; 337 upvotes; Montreal

Oct 13th, 2020 10:14 am

railgrinder wrote: ↑ Also the internal drive doesn't have all the standard mounting holes. I think it's missing a pair either on the side or the underside.

Yup, missing the middle hole on the side, now I have to 3D print this adapter.

most things haven't worked out

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Oct 13th, 2020 10:17 am

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railgrinder [OP]: Member; Aug 16, 2006; 232 posts; 277 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 13th, 2020 10:17 am

wlee wrote: ↑ is this the PRO model?

Barracuda Pro inside: ST10000DM0004

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Oct 13th, 2020 10:20 am

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nanoo777: Deal Addict; Aug 29, 2006; 2850 posts; 412 upvotes; Mississauga

Oct 13th, 2020 10:20 am

Not bad but not fantastic. Grabbed 5 from Best Buy back in the spring at $5 more. $209 or lower qualifies for hot.

Oct 13th, 2020 10:22 am

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railgrinder [OP]: Member; Aug 16, 2006; 232 posts; 277 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 13th, 2020 10:22 am

evoviii wrote: ↑ Wait another month for the $199.99 or better

Returns can be done until Jan 31, 2021. So in true RFD fashion, buy now return later when/if the price drops.

Extended Returns Information
For the 2020 holiday season, most of the items shipped between October 1 and December 31 can be returned until January 31, 2021.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/ ... eId=915466

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Oct 13th, 2020 10:28 am

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coffeebean: Deal Addict; May 18, 2007; 1499 posts; 538 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 10:28 am

These drives are a little questionable, I bought 2 for NAS when they were 200$

in 9 months, 1 drive has 8 bad sectors (just developed last month)
the other drive has 30,000 bad sectors.

This is after doing the 2-3 pass stress test in Linux

This is with always on but minimal usage

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Oct 13th, 2020 10:33 am

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saudor: Sr. Member; Aug 19, 2013; 867 posts; 786 upvotes; TORONTO

Oct 13th, 2020 10:33 am

coffeebean wrote: ↑ These drives are a little questionable, I bought 2 for NAS when they were 200$

in 9 months, 1 drive has 8 bad sectors (just developed last month)
the other drive has 30,000 bad sectors.

This is with always on but minimal usage

Ouch. Like actual bad sectors showing up in the OS (appears in CHKDSK) or visible only through SMART (current pending sector, re-located sector events)?

Oct 13th, 2020 10:40 am

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spammy: Sr. Member; Feb 2, 2015; 626 posts; 238 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 10:40 am

railgrinder wrote: ↑ Technically yes, but they're not meant to run 24/7 or have the same mechanical tolerances of dedicated NAS hardware specially if you're planning to use them in some sort of RAID configuration. Sort of like towing a camping trailer with a civic hatchback, you can technically do it and no one's going to stop you from doing it but it's not recommended. With that said, I'm sure a few people have used these in their NAS successfully without any issues.

Also the internal drive doesn't have all the standard mounting holes. I think it's missing a pair either on the side or the underside.

tough to find a shuckable HDD for NAS though...i mean you can always buy WD Reds or the Ironwolf bare drives but those would cost you at least 100 bucks more?

Oct 13th, 2020 11:16 am

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destruct0: Jr. Member; Dec 2, 2014; 185 posts; 443 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 11:16 am

Will you actually get 200+MB/s read/write with these or are they limited in some way?

Oct 13th, 2020 11:17 am

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angel_wing0: Moderator; Mar 23, 2004; 43566 posts; 9391 upvotes; Markham

Oct 13th, 2020 11:17 am

evoviii wrote: ↑ Wait another month for the $199.99 or better

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Oct 13th, 2020 11:18 am

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railgrinder [OP]: Member; Aug 16, 2006; 232 posts; 277 upvotes; Toronto

Oct 13th, 2020 11:18 am

spammy wrote: ↑ tough to find a shuckable HDD for NAS though...i mean you can always buy WD Reds or the Ironwolf bare drives but those would cost you at least 100 bucks more?

You just have to know what you're getting into if you decide to use these for a NAS. Firmware for these aren't optimized for NAS and probably more optimized for hot plugging and power saving compared to 24/7 use. Heat is another factor to consider when using in a NAS since they're typically in close proximity to other drives and might have limited airflow depending on the cooling design, compared to its default use in the enclosure and relying on ambient air to passively dissipate heat.

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Oct 13th, 2020 11:18 am

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coolspot: Deal Expert; Oct 6, 2005; 16616 posts; 2318 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 11:18 am

I bought about 8 or 10 of these hard drives over the past 12 months (last year's amazing $199 deal) for my NAS... 3 have failed due to bad sectors.

Replacements seem OK, still abnormally high failure rate.

railgrinder wrote: ↑ You just have to know what you're getting into if you decide to use these for a NAS. Firmware for these aren't optimized for NAS and probably more optimized for hot plugging and power saving compared to 24/7 use.

Barracuda Pro is rated for "DAS" usage, so for software RAID (i.e. Synology, unRAID, FreeNAS), they work great... only issue is the bad sectors.

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Oct 13th, 2020 11:29 am

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iamdman: Deal Addict; Aug 12, 2004; 2146 posts; 583 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 11:29 am

So getting at 2TB WD quality drive for $70 is out of the realm with today's prices? Wait till BF?

Oct 13th, 2020 11:32 am

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coolspot: Deal Expert; Oct 6, 2005; 16616 posts; 2318 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 11:32 am

iamdman wrote: ↑ So getting at 2TB WD quality drive for $70 is out of the realm with today's prices? Wait till BF?

Lower capacity drives aren't discounted as heavily, my guess is that there is a fixed cost to sell these units so the can only go so cheap?

Oct 13th, 2020 11:34 am

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iamdman: Deal Addict; Aug 12, 2004; 2146 posts; 583 upvotes

Oct 13th, 2020 11:34 am

coolspot wrote: ↑ Lower capacity drives aren't discounted as heavily, my guess is that there is a fixed cost to sell these units so the can only go so cheap?

Found the WD 2TB Blue at NewEgg for $68:

https://www.newegg.ca/blue-wd20ezaz-2tb ... 6822234372

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