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[Amazon Canada] Samsung 970 PRO M.2 NVMe 512GB

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I couldn't justify the cost of a 970, so I picked up a 660p for my new build.
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As a main ssd I want reliability vs saving a few bucks. Samsung quality is superior and when comparing the two performance is better overall with Samsung.
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How about the 970EVO Plus? 500 GB for $169.99 at Newegg currently. I need a single sided m.2 for my laptop
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A-Town wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 2:57 pm
How about the 970EVO Plus? 500 GB for $169.99 at Newegg currently. I need a single sided m.2 for my laptop
Just grabbed the 970 EVO Plus the other day..love it!
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RockCan wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 2:52 pm
As a main ssd I want reliability vs saving a few bucks. Samsung quality is superior and when comparing the two performance is better overall with Samsung.
In day to day use you will not notice much of a difference at all but the Intel option will leave you with $70 plus tax extra in your pants for a 512GB nvme drive more than fast enough at 1400/1000. You nor I would own it long enough to have any worry , that's just a fact
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When the 970 Pro hits $199, you'll see a small celebration, punch will be served.

Samsung knows how to wring out it's customers for every last dime.

Bless their hearts.
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dealChimp wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 10:27 pm
When is M2 needed over ssd?
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Same prices at NewEgg Canada:

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6820147693 512 GB $229.99
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6820147694 1 TB $459.99

From benchmarks it looks like the SLC cache on the 970 EVO and EVO Plus are close to or better than the 970 Pro. Once that SLC cache is used the speeds of the EVO/EVO Plus drop to TLC levels — still respectably fast — but less than the MLC on the 970 Pro. However you need to ask yourself if you are doing anything that will use up that cache. In the Tom's Hardware 970 Pro Review (note: almost a year old) the charts near the bottom with the application workloads make most of the NVMe drives look pretty identical. I know that if you are running a database server and doing heavy read/write then you might notice the faster 970 Pro — I'm not sure about other types of work where it would make a difference (chime in if you know).

I have done some moderate DB work lately on a 970 EVO, and found that the M.2 controller temperature was peaking at 81 Celsius. The thermal throttle on the chip kicks in at 80. I installed a case fan pointing right at the M.2 slot and it now peaks in the mid-50s Celsius. Kinda weird having to worry about cooling drives again after HDDs and SSDs required minimal cooling for so long.
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JackWhyte wrote:
Mar 14th, 2019 9:28 pm
Plus, at this level of performance (3K+/3K read/write) you are really not going to notice the tiny difference, even in high-performance environments, while I definitely noticed spending half the money. I have a 1TB and a 512GB, and these things absolutely fly and are a crazy value for the money.
+1 to that. I just swapped my 970 Pro 512GB for a HP EX950 2TB and there's no noticeable drop in speed (fairly heavy workstation usage). It's a somewhat better drive than the EX950, but you're getting 512GB instead of 1TB at basically the same price point. They're all blazingly fast, and most likely your bottleneck will be elsewhere.

Edit: https://www.anandtech.com/show/9799/best-ssds
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Cisco KId wrote:
Mar 19th, 2019 10:23 pm
You nor I would own it long enough to have any worry , that's just a fact
That's rather presumptuous and definitely not a fact. You could very likely make the part that involves yourself a fact, provided that everything goes according to your plan and the intel drive doesn't become defective within the time you plan to use it.

That said, I think I'd rather deal with Intel rather than Samsung if it came down to requiring an RMA. But if I bought a bunch of stuff based on who provides better service, I'd own more garbage products right now. (general statement, not targetting the brands mentioned)
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Why Jack?
I'm actually glad I took you off my ignore list for the rest of the month!
Your latest posts are pleasant, on track, useful and informative! What gives?
I'm going to have to upvote at least one of them!
If you keep this up, I'll have no choice but to remove you permanently from my ignore list!
Love and kisses!
JackWhyte wrote:
Mar 14th, 2019 9:14 pm
Get one of these instead - just as fast and the price is far more indicative of the upcoming QLC price revolution: (...)l
JackWhyte wrote:
Mar 14th, 2019 9:28 pm
That's just a fact of life without MLC on some benchmarks, but the chipset on the ADATA is superior to Samsung's and it's about as fast as you can get with 3D TLC. It's faster than the EVO and just a bit slower than the Pro, but it's closer to the Pro overall. Plus, at this level of performance (3K+/3K read/write) you are really not going to notice the tiny difference, even in high-performance environments, while I definitely noticed spending half the money. I have a 1TB and a 512GB, and these things absolutely fly and are a crazy value for the money.
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It's getting pretty hard to make a case for the 970 Pro these days. I believe the SM2262EN in the Adata drive mentioned by several people in this thread (and the HP EX950) is actually the fastest controller on the market now. The new Adata 8200 Pro and HP drives beat 970 pro in most benchmarks. There are some corner cases where 3D MLC still reigns, but those are rarely seen in non-server oriented workloads. More importantly, the SM2262EN drives defeat the 970 Pro convincingly in 4K random performance, which is the most significant benchmark for determining real-world "snap".

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8870 ... index.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ad ... ,5955.html
https://techreport.com/review/34431/ada ... b-reviewed

Pricing on these drives is in the $130 500GB / $250 1TB range. Better performance in consumer workloads at 1/2 the price...

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.a ... 6820326041
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07K1HMMJC/

There's little justification (other than fanboyism) for the 970 Pro's price tag (double that of other performance SSDs). Don't buy a Samsung drive expecting outstanding quality/service either. They have just as many reliability problems as other companies - which is to say "not that many" these days - plus a long history of shafting customers.

Just Google the 840/840 EVO fiasco, or have a look at our 15-page thread on Samsung warranty support in Canada (thankfully after much hard work on users' part it seems that people have actually found a way to get defective SSDs serviced now!).

has-anyone-dealt-samsung-warranty-ssd-updated-2098075/
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