[Amazon.ca] Schneider Electric APC UPS 425VA UPS Battery Backup & Surge Protector, APC UPS BackUPS (BE425M) $52.43

How about this one at cost -- APC UPS 650VA -- has a replaceable battery, whereas the 425VA does not and it's $76.99 (but yes, you need a Costco membership).

https://www.costco.ca/.product.100306912.html

sammytheone wrote: ↑ I need to replace the UPS for my router, modem etc as frequent power blips are upsetting the devices until I recycle them. This one at amazon is not exactly a "hot deal" at about $17 less than almost anywhere else. Anyone have experience with it or suggestion for something better.?

There's a good chance that the problem with your current UPS is that the battery inside of the UPS needs replacement so when a power blip happens, the UPS doesn't have enough battery power to keep going. For most UPSs, the batteries are easily replaceable if you have any experience with using a screwdriver as the instructions are typically available online.

xcell wrote: ↑ How about this one at cost -- APC UPS 650VA -- has a replaceable battery, whereas the 425VA does not and it's $76.99 (but yes, you need a Costco membership).

https://www.costco.ca/.product.100306912.html

You don’t need a Costco membership for (the majority of) website purchases.

xcell wrote: ↑ How about this one at cost -- APC UPS 650VA -- has a replaceable battery, whereas the 425VA does not and it's $76.99 (but yes, you need a Costco membership).

https://www.costco.ca/.product.100306912.html

FYI - if the price is displayed online (such as in this case), then that means no membership card is required to order it

I have this model.

Works pretty well, saved me a few times during outages. However it died 3 weeks ago during another outage, not sure if it was the battery that was dead or the internal circuits.

Either way, used it for 2 out of the 3 year warranty period. Schneider replaced the entire unit for me at no cost.

For reference, have it plugged into 2 monitors, 1 performance PC, and speakers.

Can you still use the UPS without battery?

ronienra wrote: ↑ Can you still use the UPS without battery?

yes, it just means only the surge feature of the UPS will function

I thought it will keep beeping.. i had an old UPS before. .it keep beeping when the battery died

soupmaster666 wrote: ↑ In my experience no tools nor instructions are required. Open the door, pull out the old battery, connect the red and black wires to the new battery in the exact same manner, put the battery back in, put the door back on.

Sealed lead acid UPS batteries basically all have the same charging voltage, cut off voltage, capacity for size, terminal configuration, etc.

That's my experience as well. However, one cannot assume that random people you meet on random internet forms share someone's ability to take apart, order the broken part, replace said part, and then reassemble. If you can, then 1/4 of the questions on most forums would disappear!

ronienra wrote: ↑Can you still use the UPS without battery?

mingyang wrote: ↑ yes, it just means only the surge feature of the UPS will function

softech wrote: ↑ I thought it will keep beeping.. i had an old UPS before. .it keep beeping when the battery died

Yep. most of them do keep beeping. Some of them will have a beep cancellation function.

Tip: this would be decent protection for a home automation system (or anything else that's fairly important) running on a Raspberry Pi. (I have a similar setup)

gotglint wrote: ↑ looks interesting. any link to the replaceable battery itself?

APC Replacement battery cartridge #154

Soichiro wrote: ↑ APC Replacement battery cartridge #154

NOTE> It's much cheaper to buy the other branded battery rather than the APC one. You can typically get them at most industrial battery shops or electronics stores for about 1/2 of the price. Just bring the battery to them so that they can match it up.

Soichiro wrote: ↑ APC Replacement battery cartridge #154

almost can but a new one....

softech wrote: ↑ almost can but a new one....

I believe that's what APC wants... I've found that USED UPSs are the best deal provided you know where to get the 3rd party batteries.

gotglint wrote: ↑ what are good reputable 3rd party batteries?

i always feel like these are such a waste cos most people throw them out once the battery is done in 3-5 years, but everything else in it is still useful!

ExcessUps canada

i think it was much cheaper when staples had that 25off coupon deal that worked on almost any items! kicking myself i never bought one
i think with coupon it was 50 all in tx

gotglint wrote: ↑ what are good reputable 3rd party batteries?

i always feel like these are such a waste cos most people throw them out once the battery is done in 3-5 years, but everything else in it is still useful!

Hard to say. But APC doesn't make batteries either... they rebrand other batteries.

One important thing about these batteries - they are lead-acid batteries so things that kill standard lead-acid batteries will kill these batteries as well. One thing I've found is that most UPSs try to squeeze the battery in the tightest space which has next to zero or zero ventilation which causes the battery to get warm which is BAD for lead-acid batteries especially sealed ones! Why? Because warm batteries may mean that the battery has to off-gas and off-gassing means that fluid will leave the battery through vents so the cells will dry out faster. Since these batteries are sealed, you can't top off the fluid in the cells so once the cells dry out, the battery is toast. If you can cool the battery better, you can probably extend it's life.

Keep in mind that if you are having power interruptions in your area, chances are the Bell/Rogers hardware outside of your home will also be impacted. This UPS may keep your modem powered on, but the power blip will require you to still power cycle the modem once the Rogers/Bell hardware outside of your home is back online.

I am not sure about Bell, but Rogers used to put battery backups on their hardware at the tap (outside of the home) when people got home phone. They stopped that as it was a pain for them to maintain. Now the just say that if you have any power interruptions in your area, your Rogers services will be impacted.