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TP-Link Wireless Access Point EAP110-Outdoor ($49.99)

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elfion wrote: Was looking for a good deal for an exterior grade access point to reach the far corner of my property. This seems solid. You can also get $5 extra off if you pick up their used one but it does say major damage so I decided to get a new one.
I have three of these. I think the downvoters are downvoting the technology, rather than the product. For me, it was an inexpensive way to get around obstacles (a garage with aluminum siding). I did one as cheaply as possible - laying wire on the ground and reeling it in for winter, and another proper insulation with a trench and burial grade cable. If you are going to to spend $500 plus for trenching and a cable, it makes no sense to cheap out on the eap. That was my thinking. I thought I would end up replacing this one with a ubiquiti at $300 +. However, for my use. This one has been fine. We can zoom and watch videos on tablets and my son can work from the cabin. At $50 including the poe injector (I am assuming it is still included) I would give it some consideration.
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elfion wrote: I wouldn't be buying an outdoor AP if I didn't need one. I can't use an indoor AP. I need it mounted in the middle of my property far away from all structures. I don't really need a lighting protection, there is a humongous tree right next to the point where I need the AP. but I can ground it very easily if I want to. take a wire, attach it to the AP, stick a big nail in the ground. done. I also may not really need outdoor cable either because I am hoping I can run it away from the sun. but if I do end up needing an outdoor cable, that's a problem I will have to face regardless of which outdoor AP I pick.

as far as this device not being adequate or up to date, until recently I have been using 100mbps routers at home and my internet was 100mbps. and I was totally fine. now I have 900mbps. but I still don't don't need to pay more than double the money for speeds over 200mbps in a forest. it's just not necessary.

to be totally honest I have very hard time believing this AP caps out at 50mbps as reported above.
How far away is this property to your nearest structure? What is the coverage do you need?

Even this is a N 300mbps, it limits to 100mbps at the ethernet port. Then factors in environmental condition, you will be probably getting much lower than 100bmps usable speed.
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Inclemental wrote: How far away is this property to your nearest structure? What is the coverage do you need?

Even this is a N 300mbps, it limits to 100mbps at the ethernet port.
you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
tp-link specifications for this says "Interface
1× Fast Ethernet (RJ-45) Port (Support Passive PoE)"

https://www.tp-link.com/ca/business-net ... 0-outdoor/
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
Dhanushan wrote: tp-link specifications for this says "Interface
1× Fast Ethernet (RJ-45) Port (Support Passive PoE)"

https://www.tp-link.com/ca/business-net ... 0-outdoor/
its on the amazon page, but if you want to check/confirm on the datasheet
https://static.tp-link.com/upload/produ ... asheet.pdf


Ethernet Port:
1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy...

Yes, 10/100 as shown in the picture below:
TP Link EAP110 Outdoor AP.jpg
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
yes its just basic 10/100 lan on the port. If its only for checking your phone and quick google searches etc these are fine for acreage properties. If its to support higher streaming purposes for farms/lots outdoors and more active users the eap225 works better.

Remember these are by design to actually work better a little further away than right next to it as that's conducive to the style of attenuation for the antennas. Its out an away thus weaker at points directly under and over for dipole. For example if you put this at the peak of your house. Its gonna be weaker right under it but much stronger 40ft away direct line of site. These things can travel signal well if up high enough and little in the way.
elfion wrote: eAP225-Outdoor? can you please share a link?
its 69.99 usd in the states so they must have mixed up the .com from .ca
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lead wrote: yes its just basic 10/100 lan on the port.
ok now everything is finally starting to make sense. this is what must be bottlenecking the speed on this device then.

it is amazing how many people above keep talking about indoor access points. this is a conversation about a deal on an outdoor AP. outdoor. not indoor. outdoor. yes. need outdoor. no, indoor will not work. yes, outdoor is needed.
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
Just 40feet away from the house? That's nothing....

And you need 100feet radius coverage.

The issue here is range...not so much as an outdoor requirement. (The outdoor requirement is a mitigation of the poor range from / if placed indoor).
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elfion wrote: ok now everything is finally starting to make sense. this is what must be bottlenecking the speed on this device then.

it is amazing how many people above keep talking about indoor access points. this is a conversation about a deal on an outdoor AP. outdoor. not indoor. outdoor. yes. need outdoor. no, indoor will not work. yes, outdoor is needed.
the outdoor-eap225 from the states might be the better option than the outdoor-eap225 from .ca if one can guarantee it comes with "US" firmware. The "US" firmware offers more dfs channels than the canadian version allows for outdoor usage. Canada doesn't allow for channel 36-48 for outdoor.

You can't flash the "us" firmware to the ca versions they are region locked to comply with the local regulations and laws.
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Hey guys, I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but I use an indoor AP for an outdoor AP.

Thanks
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I bought one of these at the $49 price back in August, to provide an AP to my neighbour up at the cottage. I was hampered by not using the right ethernet cable though - need solid copper UTP for this kind of thing.

Speed wasn't an issue as I'm running on a 25MBPS wireless rural internet service from Bell. Next spring I'll run a proper outdoor ethernet cable 200+ feet out towards his property and stick it on a tree for him.
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elfion wrote: ok now everything is finally starting to make sense. this is what must be bottlenecking the speed on this device then.
No, N300 can never hit 100Mbps of throughput. Don't confuse the wifi PHY speed (N300 in this case) with actual throughput speed you would see (far less than 100Mbps; 50Mbps would be pretty good on N300 in real use).
Google will reveal the reasons why, including 802.11 being half-duplex (the biggest reason), needing to use CDMA/CA to prevent collisions, ACKs, etc.
Here's one example (scroll down for the answers): https://networkengineering.stackexchang ... ifi-speeds

That link should also help anybody who has wondered why they never get the speed shown on the side of the shiny new router they just bought, including the latest WIFI 6.
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chatbox wrote: The issue here is range...not so much as an outdoor requirement. (The outdoor requirement is a mitigation of the poor range from / if placed indoor).
no, it is not. the outdoor requirement is due to the topology of the space that needs to be covered. if I install an AP indoors then 90% of the area that needs to be covered will be separated by a hill. I'm not sure how else to say this but I am looking for an outdoor AP because I need an outdoor AP.
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elfion wrote: Was looking for a good deal for an exterior grade access point to reach the far corner of my property. This seems solid. You can also get $5 extra off if you pick up their used one but it does say major damage so I decided to get a new one.
it works fine for stuff you would do outside not the latest tech but its fine for browsing , videos, etc
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elfion wrote: you're saying they have a 100mbps port on a 300mbps AP? that's crazy. the AP is about 40 feet away from the house, 15 feet from a metal shed, and the coverage I need around it is about 100 feet.
With 100ft coverage, this AP will provide usable speed for a few users. You can stream 1080 content without much problem since many apps runs on buffer, but Live Stream will suffer. Get shielded outdoor CAT5e as CAT6 gives you no benefit. Nevertheless, you need to ground your AP. Get a 4-6ft ground rod and stick it 3 feet deep and connect it to the AP.
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Inclemental wrote: Nevertheless, you need to ground your AP. Get a 4-6ft ground rod and stick it 3 feet deep and connect it to the AP.
There is no ground connection on the TP-Link outdoor EAPs anymore, only via the shielded Ethernet cable.
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kingpin748 wrote: Hey guys, I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but I use an indoor AP for an outdoor AP.

Thanks
you do use an indoor out doors?
or can you use an indoor outdoors?

sure you could but it has no weather protection it''ll die in the rain or snow and degrade with uv nor would arguably run over poe for proper placement.
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elfion wrote: no, it is not. the outdoor requirement is due to the topology of the space that needs to be covered. if I install an AP indoors then 90% of the area that needs to be covered will be separated by a hill. I'm not sure how else to say this but I am looking for an outdoor AP because I need an outdoor AP.
Ah... No hill was previously mentioned.

100ft radius...how much of a hill can it be? Anyway, you know what you need.
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Upvote for the OP. Next to the $500 candle guy, I haven't seen anyone take a beating over a deal recommendation like he has, and he's still standing firm.

Good on you.

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