Applying for a job while already employed

Yeah, i would suggest you be honest with the place where you are applying. There are several ways to say it is sensitive to use your current employer as reference as it would cause an uproar. But good HR or hiring manager know that contacting your current employer is delicate and they would usually mention it to you before doing so. If not, explicitly ask them to respect that.

Now depending on the size of the company you are currently working that may or may not be easy, but make sure you have good references from previous jobs or people at your current job that you entirely trust. The hiring manager and HR will want to talk with people that have worked with you and in an ideal world those people would be even your direct manager.

Huh? Have you not applied to jobs before? No need to redact the name of your employer. Nobody will reach out to your employer without consent. If anything the name of your current employer may help you land an interview if they are well known in their industry.

dc200 wrote: ↑ I recently came across a recommended posting on LinkedIn that really caught my eye and I think I may apply for it just to see what happens.

I obviously need to update my resume with my current position in order to apply, but I'm a little concerned about putting my current employer's name onto my resume. The concern is that I don't want anyone reaching out to my current employer without my consent.

Does anyone have any experience on how to deal with this?

The only alternative is to redact my current employer's name, but I don't know what the recruiter will make of that.

I've applied for positions while currently working and I've never removed my current employer from my CV when applying for a job.

I don't know anyone who does this or would do this. Actually, that's not true... I don't know what he did with his CV but one of my friends for his LinkedIn profile redacted the name of the company that he works/worked at since the company deals with adult material which could affect his job prospects. His position, responsibilities, and tasks and his time at this company is indicated but not the company name.

I would say that it is very unlikely that the new company will contact your current employer without asking you first unless they are not following standard HR processes.

Today i learned that you're supposed to be unemployed before applying to another job.

angrybanker wrote: ↑ Today i learned that you're supposed to be unemployed before applying to another job.

ProductGuy wrote: ↑ Huh? Have you not applied to jobs before?

First time applying while already employed.

dc200 wrote: ↑ First time applying while already employed.

That's not a valid excuse lol.

Do you think just because you submitted your resume that their next step is to contact your current employer without even interviewing you first?

You need to concern yourself with landing a first interview, and then a second interview - then they may ask for references, some may require you to use your current employer (which is what I think you're asking about but did not communicate effectively hence the responses). At any rate, worry about that when/if you even get to that stage.

hierophant wrote: ↑ That's not a valid excuse lol.

Do you think just because you submitted your resume that their next step is to contact your current employer without even interviewing you first?

You need to concern yourself with landing a first interview, and then a second interview - then they may ask for references, some may require you to use your current employer (which is what I think you're asking about but did not communicate effectively hence the responses). At any rate, worry about that when/if you even get to that stage.

Sure. Just covering my bases.

I just didn't want to do anything to jeopardize my position at my current company, because I do enjoy working here and will likely end up staying if I don't get the other job. Good to hear that I don't have anything to worry about right now.

I'm only applying because the other opening is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I'm going to be kicking myself if I let it pass by without even trying for it.

I will have to deal with the references as well if/when I get to that point in the hiring process.

dc200 wrote: ↑ Sure. Just covering my bases.

I just didn't want to do anything to jeopardize my position at my current company, because I do enjoy working here and will likely end up staying if I don't get the other job. Good to hear that I don't have anything to worry about right now.

I'm only applying because the other opening is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I'm going to be kicking myself if I let it pass by without even trying for it.

I will have to deal with the references as well if/when I get to that point in the hiring process.

Most definitely go for it if's a life time opportunity. Good luck!

dc200 wrote: ↑ Sure. Just covering my bases.

I just didn't want to do anything to jeopardize my position at my current company, because I do enjoy working here and will likely end up staying if I don't get the other job. Good to hear that I don't have anything to worry about right now.

I'm only applying because the other opening is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I'm going to be kicking myself if I let it pass by without even trying for it.

I will have to deal with the references as well if/when I get to that point in the hiring process.

Go for it, you'll be fine.

And honestly, except for specific situations (e.g., if your job deals with sensitive material or you're leaving for their biggest competitor), so many people switch jobs every couple of years that companies just assume people are constantly looking. It's nothing to be ashamed of. The stigma of "leaving your resume on the printer" and now the office gossip is you're looking for another job - that time is long gone.

your post doesn't provide much info...

I understand why you want to be a bit secretive about applying other job as there's a fear that you could be looked at differently.

Questions though...
is this potential job in the same industry or even a competitor? pending on the industry, you could be walked out...
do you have a non-competing clause with your current company? Some company will not allow you to apply to a job within the same industry for at least a year because you could take some clients with your or trade secrets.

if neither question applies, then you're fine. Although, I would recommend to speak to your manager about it...

dc200 wrote: ↑ I recently came across a recommended posting on LinkedIn that really caught my eye and I think I may apply for it just to see what happens.

I obviously need to update my resume with my current position in order to apply, but I'm a little concerned about putting my current employer's name onto my resume. The concern is that I don't want anyone reaching out to my current employer without my consent.

Does anyone have any experience on how to deal with this?

The only alternative is to redact my current employer's name, but I don't know what the recruiter will make of that.

Keep your current employer on there. Most any company will realize that they should not reach out to your current employer (at least not until you are somewhere further in the process and they have gotten your okay to do so). Most companies don't do reference checks until further along in the process anyways. Good luck!

It's actually better to apply while you are still employed. Unemployed applicants are less "sexy" to companies hiring. You will also have more negotiating power if you are still employed.

CrazyJo82 wrote: ↑ your post doesn't provide much info...

I understand why you want to be a bit secretive about applying other job as there's a fear that you could be looked at differently.

Questions though...
is this potential job in the same industry or even a competitor? pending on the industry, you could be walked out...
do you have a non-competing clause with your current company? Some company will not allow you to apply to a job within the same industry for at least a year because you could take some clients with your or trade secrets.

if neither question applies, then you're fine. Although, I would recommend to speak to your manager about it...

Speak to the current manager about what, exactly?

The stigma of looking for a job while employed is somewhat gone as the average turnaround in a position these days is 2-3 years, but with a few exceptions a manager at a company has the best interests of the company in mind, not yours. If they know you're searching for a job, they have an obligation to the company to quantify and communicate the resource risk to the company.

I'd be worried about the reputational risk, and the risk of (illegal, but can be hard and expensive to prove) constructive dismissal.

Sure, OP can be walked out, but that's not the risk I'd be worried about in Ontario. In Ontario and most (all?) of Canada, an employer who terminates without cause (and firing because OP is job hunting would not be considered just cause) must pay the employee for the required notice period. There are statutory minimums under the Ontario ESA, but OP would likely be entitled to a lot more than that under common law depending on length of tenure, age, role, etc. But that's a complicated topic.

Unless OP really trusts their manager, like really trusts, they should avoid sharing with the current company that they're job hunting.

There are exceptions to not telling your employer, of course. I work in the federal public service. I have no problems sharing with my current management my aspirations internal to the public service, i.e. when I apply to a position in a different department or agency. As much as I trust my management and believe they have my interests at heart, though, I would never willingly divulge about an external job search.

OP, don't worry about putting your current employer's information (name of employer, your job title, your duties) on the resume. The new employer won't reach out to them without first checking with you first, and that won't happen until they've interviewed you and decided they think you're a good fit.

And when they do, unless you specifically identify someone from the company as a reference, they'll typically only ask the employer high level questions - Did this person work for you? What was their title?. Anything beyond that without you giving explicit permission to your old company and they're entering the realm of breach of privacy laws.

I don't mean speak to the manager that you're applying to a new role with another company. I'm suggesting it as an opportunity to discuss career path within the current company.

Op, with all due respect, you over thinking the importance of yourself at the current company.

No one cares to be honest. And if you are wanted by other firms, that will make you an important employee that the current employer will THINK about you!

Go apply!

I was always told the BEST way to find a job is when you already have one. When your unemployed your more desperate and try desperate measures such as applying to 100 jobs in hoping someone reaches out to you, and your not serious but instead just desperate. it does not work trust me.

I was told that when you have a job already your more focused on where you want to go and move up and because of that the jobs you apply to are more tailored to your needs instead of applying to 100's of jobs out of desperation.

Some of the best opportunities I've had was applying for jobs when i already had one, i was more focused and dedicated on applying for the right job instead of any job