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Bell, Telus to use Nokia and Ericsson, not Huawei, in building their next-generation 5G networks (updated)

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Bell, Telus to use Nokia and Ericsson, not Huawei, in building their next-generation 5G networks (updated)

All 3 major telecom companies in Canada will use European suppliers for 5G, in snub to Huawei
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bce-5g ... -1.5594601


Press release: Bell Canada selects Ericsson as 5G network equipment supplier
MONTRÉAL, June 2, 2020 /CNW Telbec/ - Bell Canada today announced that Ericsson will provide radio access network (RAN) equipment for Bell's national 5G wireless network, including for the unique Wireless Home Internet service Bell has developed to bring high-speed Internet access to rural Canada. An existing supplier of 4G LTE wireless and other technology to Bell, Ericsson has to date signed 92 commercial 5G agreements with telecom providers worldwide and is the first company to enable commercial 5G networks on 4 continents.

"Bell's 5G strategy supports our goal to advance how Canadians connect with each other and the world, and Ericsson's innovative 5G network products and experience on the global stage will be key to our rollout of this game-changing mobile technology across Canada," said Mirko Bibic, President and CEO of BCE Inc. and Bell Canada. "Investment and scale in leading-edge networks is critical to national competitiveness, economic growth and resiliency, highlighted by the important role that Bell's wireless, fibre and broadcast networks have played in Canada's response to COVID-19. With the support of Ericsson and our other 5G partners, Bell looks forward to ensuring Canada remains at the forefront of the next generation of mobile communications."

Niklas Heuveldop, President and Head of Ericsson North America, said: "We are proud to have earned Bell's trust to be selected as one of their key partners and significantly expand our existing relationship to accelerate the transformation of their network with 5G mobile and fixed wireless technology. With our industry-leading 5G product portfolio, Bell will be able to provide Canadian consumers, enterprises and the public sector with innovative experiences and services whether they're on the move or at home, regardless if they're in urban or rural areas."
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Ericsson is *a* 5g vendor.
Bell has NOT ruled out Huawei.

Huawei is already part of their 4g network and Telus 5g is also using Huawei.
https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/ ... awei-2020/

The CBC article is poorly researched and written.

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"We’re working with multiple vendors to build our 5G network – as we did with our successful buildout of 4G LTE, which included Cisco, Ericsson, Huawei, Nokia and others,” said Bell spokesperson Marc Choma in an email to BNN Bloomberg. “Huawei has been a reliable and innovative partner in the past and we would consider working with them in 5G if the federal government allows their participation.”

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/bell-inks-5 ... -1.1444386
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Now only lame TELUS is the only one putting profit before people by using Huawei backed and subsidized by the thuggish communist regime. Thumbs Down Sign
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RFDQ1016 wrote: Ericsson is *a* 5g vendor.
Bell has NOT ruled out Huawei.

Huawei is already part of their 4g network and Telus 5g is also using Huawei.
https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/ ... awei-2020/

The CBC article is poorly researched and written.
Thanks, just added the press release to the first post.

Bell Canada selects Ericsson as 5G network equipment supplier

"As with previous wireless and wireline network deployments, Bell is working with multiple equipment suppliers for its 5G rollout."

"Ericsson plays an important role in enabling Bell's award-winning LTE network and we're pleased to grow our partnership into 5G mobile and fixed wireless technology," said Stephen Howe, Bell's Chief Technology Officer.
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TELUS announces 5G network equipment partners
Press release June 2
Vancouver - TELUS today announced it has selected Ericsson and Nokia to support building its 5G network...

BCE, Telus turn to European suppliers to build 5G networks
- Globe and Mail

Although BCE’s chief executive Mirko Bibic had previously expressed optimism that Canadian carriers will be permitted to use Huawei equipment, [the analyst] said the company appears to be lining up alternative vendors to prepare for the possibility of a ban – particularly in light of recent developments in the U.K.

“I don’t think you’d want to sit and wait until the government finally makes a decision before considering other vendors,” Mr. Heger said. “It could leave you kind of flat-footed.”
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DJ Trance AZ wrote: Isn't Nokia now a Chinese company?
No.
Nokia Networks

Nokia got out of the cellphone business in 2014.
HMD Global took over the mobile phone division from Microsoft and is licensed to use the Nokia name. It's run by former Nokia executives.

Separate companies, HMD Global and Nokia Networks are both headquartered in Finland.
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DJ Trance AZ wrote: Isn't Nokia now a Chinese company?
Nokia is still a Finnish company.

https://www.ft.com/content/53a70196-1cd ... 094f6d9c46

Nokia’s once dominant mobile phone franchise will be given a new lease of life, as Microsoft exits the feature phone business it acquired from the Finnish telecoms group two years ago.

The Windows maker has agreed to sell the unit it acquired from Nokia to Foxconn, the Taiwanese technology group, for $350m.

Meanwhile, a deal to revive Nokia’s name in consumer electronics has also been struck with HMD, a newly created Finnish company led by former senior Nokia and Microsoft telecoms executives.

Foxconn will acquire the manufacturing, sales and distribution units of the Microsoft business while HMD will focus on marketing and selling Nokia-branded devices.
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This is probably what the govt wanted all along. Keep delaying the decision until carriers get frustrated, or maybe the govt convinced them behind closed doors (wonder what they offered in return - maybe a guarantee that CRTC won't mandate mvnos).

They didn't want to publicly ban Huawei (weak leadership, can't take a stand or stand with allies). Gotta please the Chinese Communist regime!
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RFDQ1016 wrote: Ericsson is *a* 5g vendor.
Bell has NOT ruled out Huawei.

Huawei is already part of their 4g network and Telus 5g is also using Huawei.
https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/ ... awei-2020/

The CBC article is poorly researched and written.

BNN:
"We’re working with multiple vendors to build our 5G network – as we did with our successful buildout of 4G LTE, which included Cisco, Ericsson, Huawei, Nokia and others,” said Bell spokesperson Marc Choma in an email to BNN Bloomberg. “Huawei has been a reliable and innovative partner in the past and we would consider working with them in 5G if the federal government allows their participation.”

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/bell-inks-5 ... -1.1444386
Also, they use Huawei for their fiber backbone.
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/01/25/bell-telus-huawei/
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RFDQ1016 wrote: This is probably what the govt wanted all along. Keep delaying the decision until carriers get frustrated, or maybe the govt convinced them behind closed doors (wonder what they offered in return - maybe a guarantee that CRTC won't mandate mvnos).

They didn't want to publicly ban Huawei (weak leadership, can't take a stand or stand with allies). Gotta please the Chinese Communist regime!
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/01/25/bell-telus-huawei/

Read this, you will realise that the previous governement let Huawei get in the backbone of Bell and Telus network, this will not change.
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elgros4 wrote: https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/01/25/bell-telus-huawei/

Read this, you will realise that the previous governement let Huawei get in the backbone of Bell and Telus network, this will not change.
That's not what the article says.

Bell and Telus used Huawei for its gigabit-capable passive optical network (GPON), which is generally used to fill in the last stretch of connection between a network provider and the customer...
The equipment, however, is not part of the network core where sensitive data is stored...
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RFDQ1016 wrote: This is probably what the govt wanted all along. Keep delaying the decision until carriers get frustrated, or maybe the govt convinced them behind closed doors (wonder what they offered in return - maybe a guarantee that CRTC won't mandate mvnos).

They didn't want to publicly ban Huawei (weak leadership, can't take a stand or stand with allies). Gotta please the Chinese Communist regime!
That's exactly what I was thinking. Trudeau is not known for his leadership skills. It's obvious that neither Bell nor Telus would want to invest in Huawei equipment only to be forced to rip it out of its network in the future at tremendous cost if Canada bans them. I think both Bell and Telus made the right decision even though I know both of them wanted Huawei to participate.
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So what’s RFD’s thoughts on this overall? If we’re banning or just not using Huawei equipment in our critical network infrastructure, are we putting a ban on cheap Chinese phone deals from Huawei and Xiaomi as well?

Kinda defeats the purpose of removing Chinese tech from our networks if people are just going to buy Chinese phones because they’re on sale on Aliexpress/Amazon.

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