Acer Nitro Gaming Desktop $300 off

BlackXstar wrote: ↑ Not a bad price for GTX 1650. How is the mining performance?

• First of all, the power supply is ATX12VO. Unlike regular ATX power supply like in every other computer, this power supply ONLY has the 12v output, unlike other power supplies that have 12v, 5v, 3.7v, etc. This means that if you want to upgrade the power supply in the computer, you will have to purchase an adapter on the to adapt 24pin standard atx connector to the 10pin ATX12VO connector. This isn't too much of a worry about the power supply being particularly bad, it is actually quite impressive (80+ gold 500W unit with 8pin+6pin pcie power)
• This also makes another issue: Unlike the traditional method where a power supply has SATA power connectors, SATA devices in this computer get power from a cable stemming from the motherboard. This isn't a particular issue in regards to power quality or such but there are no spare SATA power cables for you to plug in more drives. If you want to pluck in a Sata SSD or such, you will need to buy a Y-splitter or order another one of those stemming cables from Aliexpress.
• The power supply intakes air from the bottom of the case. The bottom of the case has very low clearance. For this reason, it is a bad decision to put this computer on a carpet floor while stressing it because the power supply is unable to intake any air.
• According to certain YouTube channels, this computer is particularly picky when it comes to RAM upgrades. There are issues that would arise where the RAM would not run at their advertised speeds becuase they did not meet a very specific criteria. So, if you decide to upgrade RAM, it is very important that you do your homework and research which kits work specifically with this computer.
• The cooling on the CPU and GPU are adequate but not of significant value. Graphics card is an extreme barebones single-fan design and the CPU is cooled by an intel stock cooler equivalent.
• It is impossible to upgrade motherboard in this computer. The form factor is DTX, and the front IO is a direct attachment of the motherboard, not connected via cable, instead soldiered onto the motherboard like a laptop.

chadurban wrote: ↑ Was unhappy with my old Acer as well as my current one. Both just seem to run clunky and slow, even right out of the box. Maybe its all the bloatware. My current one is suppose to be a gaming pc as well and you wouldn't know it.

doesthenamegohere wrote: ↑ "Gaming" doesn't exempt a computer from having a slow 5400rpm hard drive, if you expect a computer to be super snappy with that sort of a storage device it is no-one's fault but yours

Bessem wrote: ↑ not a hot deal , far from that

BlackXstar wrote: ↑ Not a bad price for GTX 1650. How is the mining performance?

quantman wrote: ↑ The normal sale price for the desktop without the 1650 is 499$. And that included an NVME drive...

So 300$+ for a 1650 (2 year old card with an msrp of 149USD). COLD

chadurban wrote: ↑ Was unhappy with my old Acer as well as my current one. Both just seem to run clunky and slow, even right out of the box. Maybe its all the bloatware. My current one is suppose to be a gaming pc as well and you wouldn't know it.

doesthenamegohere wrote: ↑ There are a plenty of things to know if you are genuinely considering this system. It is a pretty good value. I won't debate that. Especially at how it is impossible to buy a video card right now, I can totally understand purchasing a system like this. It isn't even that bad of a price when comparing to a custom built. But there are plenty of compromises and it is important to know them.

• First of all, the power supply is ATX12VO. Unlike regular ATX power supply like in every other computer, this power supply ONLY has the 12v output, unlike other power supplies that have 12v, 5v, 3.7v, etc. This means that if you want to upgrade the power supply in the computer, you will have to purchase an adapter on the to adapt 24pin standard atx connector to the 10pin ATX12VO connector. This isn't too much of a worry about the power supply being particularly bad, it is actually quite impressive (80+ gold 500W unit with 8pin+6pin pcie power)
• This also makes another issue: Unlike the traditional method where a power supply has SATA power connectors, SATA devices in this computer get power from a cable stemming from the motherboard. This isn't a particular issue in regards to power quality or such but there are no spare SATA power cables for you to plug in more drives. If you want to pluck in a Sata SSD or such, you will need to buy a Y-splitter or order another one of those stemming cables from Aliexpress.
• The power supply intakes air from the bottom of the case. The bottom of the case has very low clearance. For this reason, it is a bad decision to put this computer on a carpet floor while stressing it because the power supply is unable to intake any air.
• According to certain YouTube channels, this computer is particularly picky when it comes to RAM upgrades. There are issues that would arise where the RAM would not run at their advertised speeds becuase they did not meet a very specific criteria. So, if you decide to upgrade RAM, it is very important that you do your homework and research which kits work specifically with this computer.
• The cooling on the CPU and GPU are adequate but not of significant value. Graphics card is an extreme barebones single-fan design and the CPU is cooled by an intel stock cooler equivalent.
• It is impossible to upgrade motherboard in this computer. The form factor is DTX, and the front IO is a direct attachment of the motherboard, not connected via cable, instead soldiered onto the motherboard like a laptop.

Despite these potential issues, I would still recommend this computer to someone who doesn't care much about having the most excellent cooling or squeezing out every drop of performance (and won't make big upgrades). If all you want to do is pluck in an NVME drive and another small upgrade like that, there isn't much to worry about. Good deal.

chadurban wrote: ↑ Was unhappy with my old Acer as well as my current one. Both just seem to run clunky and slow, even right out of the box. Maybe its all the bloatware. My current one is suppose to be a gaming pc as well and you wouldn't know it.

eshum wrote: ↑ I bought one of these from Best Buy a couple of months ago (different web code but appears to be identical specs). It was a gift, sadly, so I can't take it out to confirm/disconfirm the above but before gifting, I specifically checked for the potential to upgrade.

I compared the motherboard-to-PSU connectors on the Acer to my own home-built PC and they matched, so I felt comfortable that I could upgrade the PSU in the future (should the GPU be upgraded, for example). Unfortunately, I didn't check on the different voltage leads.

The mobo is a very odd (tiny) size, for better or worse, so I am not certain how easy it would be to replace the motherboard without replacing the case but is anyone in love with the case? I considered that a $50-$100 problem contingent upon the mobo failing and my not being able to find a used replacement.

I immediately added an SSD and had no problem doing so while keeping the 1TB mechanical as a secondary drive. So I'm not sure where the comments about a lack of power connectors come from (however, as I recall, I believe there was insufficient space or connectors for a third drive).

I didn't try different DDR4 so can't speak to that issue.

I was disappointed in the lack of m.2 connectors, however. Even my own very cheap (<$100) AM4 motherboard had two...