Company gave me a FB Portal for free, I have it and never use it.
I'd imagine my mom to have use for it though, I will consider giving it to her...
I'd imagine my mom to have use for it though, I will consider giving it to her...
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Dec 17th, 2019 7:50 pm
Dec 17th, 2019 8:11 pm
Forgive the following sidetracking of the OP.GB9797 wrote: ↑ Do yourself a favor. Log into fb and delete all your content/info till its blank. Unfortunately youll have to delete things one by one because fb doesnt want you deleting anything. I knew it would take long so i did it at work, took me about 3 weeks (20hrs) at work to completely delete everything. Since then my life has improved significantly. Fb = cancer
Dec 17th, 2019 8:35 pm
At least Google and Amazon never interfered with elections and allowed a third party to mess with your aunt's subconscious through their platform. They're all guilty but one was clearly far worst than the rest.coryboehm wrote: ↑ Yet these forums are all over the Google Nest Home Hub deal at Staples. Google is the same company the FTC and DOJ investigation on this week over privacy concerns, and that is under the current "hands off" administration of the United States.
Regardless of which way you turn online someone is violating your privacy. At least to use this you give up minimal information when it isn't in use (just your phone number). Heck Google or Apple already has more than that information on file on you from just your phone.
Dec 17th, 2019 8:42 pm
Dec 17th, 2019 11:00 pm
I like that idea, thanks for the suggestionssacthegreat666 wrote: ↑ I bought it from Facebook directly. It came in a week, but they charge NO TAX!!! So maybe that would be a better deal!
I have the portal TV and it works well for video calls to track my 2 year old who keeps running.
And I have connected the portal to a smart plug - which I can switch off whenever I am not using portal.
Dec 18th, 2019 8:52 am
Dec 18th, 2019 9:25 am
Why exactly? I hear this sentiment a lot (or similar) but never really a good explanation as to why. What does FB do with your data (that Google doesn't) that makes such a big difference.
Dec 18th, 2019 9:34 am
Dec 18th, 2019 9:38 am
YouTube was absolutely abused to spread political messages. Same as FB/Twitter/Reddit. Their algos are easier to abuse and it's much easier to get seen by your intended audience, even without microtargetting tools for ads. Google also still took political ad money and allowed targetting based on political stance as well (not to the same level as FB's microtargetting though).
Dec 18th, 2019 10:22 am
Google absolutely did all those things. Every notice how Google seems to know what you are searching for before you even type the search in? I also have an Android phone with Google assistant turned off and other privacy related settings set to max. I do not have any other Google products yet it sure seems like Google has a hot mic listening to me and those search suggestions seem to highly match in person conversations I am having.
Think of it this way, the Portal TV is a fairly good webcam at the $129 price with support for motion tracking. As others has suggested cover the lens, mute the mic and disconnect it from power when not in use. Not really any different that any other connected camera/mic setup out there.
All the big companies are monetizing your data in some way. To say that one is significant worse than the others is just being plan ignorant for the facts. Think about this Google owns YouTube and setup GMAIL to basically harvest data from your emails for marketing purposes.Pandamonger wrote: ↑ Why exactly? I hear this sentiment a lot (or similar) but never really a good explanation as to why. What does FB do with your data (that Google doesn't) that makes such a big difference.
Dec 18th, 2019 10:26 am
Bad PR, so Facebook inadvertently acts as a tech-industry scapegoat, but also armchair activism, because truly caring would mean eschewing Microsoft, Amazon, Google and all the other bad players, which in turn would be inconvenient and would provide no more self-gratification than virtue signalling against Zuckerberg's soul grinder. This deal is fine in and of itself for those that don't care about or have abandoned any sort of stand against the panopticon, but it's getting downvotes because many need to reinforce their self-imposed illusions (or should that be delusions) with regards to privacy and identity ownership. Same mentality of token action that we're all guilty of, you and I included, and which plagues environmentalism, human exploitation, politics and all other fundamentally human issues.Pandamonger wrote: ↑ Why exactly? I hear this sentiment a lot (or similar) but never really a good explanation as to why. What does FB do with your data (that Google doesn't) that makes such a big difference.
Dec 18th, 2019 12:25 pm
The DNA genealogy service is not for you, the DNA genealogy service is for your stupidest family member. Once it is in the database, your DNA will be compared to this database, and you lose anyway.
Dec 18th, 2019 1:42 pm
People trying to abuse a website's algorithm is very different than FB deliberately allowing cambridge analytica to access FB user's private data and conduct high level of social engineering and psychological manipulation on them. Not to mention the manifestation and funding of of fake news with their full knowledge.Pandamonger wrote: ↑ YouTube was absolutely abused to spread political messages. Same as FB/Twitter/Reddit. Their algos are easier to abuse and it's much easier to get seen by your intended audience, even without microtargetting tools for ads. Google also still took political ad money and allowed targetting based on political stance as well (not to the same level as FB's microtargetting though).
Obviously FB has a massive amount of room for improvement, but to say Google's tools weren't leveraged is straight up wrong.
Dec 18th, 2019 1:53 pm
Dec 18th, 2019 4:12 pm
If the comments on this thread are a strong indicator I think Portal as a product line might get completely canned after the holiday season.
Dec 18th, 2019 4:23 pm
Maybe, but they may have sold a lot as well with the commercials featuring the Muppets in heavy rotation.
Dec 18th, 2019 4:25 pm
Dec 18th, 2019 5:21 pm
In google's case its used for commercial ads from what is known. FB on the other hand where using it for much worst.coryboehm wrote: ↑ Google absolutely did all those things. Every notice how Google seems to know what you are searching for before you even type the search in? I also have an Android phone with Google assistant turned off and other privacy related settings set to max. I do not have any other Google products yet it sure seems like Google has a hot mic listening to me and those search suggestions seem to highly match in person conversations I am having.
Amazon is definitely up to some shady stuff too. They have needed to publicly confirm that they have actual humans listening to the Alexa systems to "improve responses". They also use fairly aggressive cookies to track everywhere you go on the Internet.
At least Facebook is mostly limited in scope to its own platform and how you interact with it. As I have said before if you are concerned about your privacy you would be staying completely offline, using only pen and paper for notes, etc. Buying your research materials in hard copy with cash, etc.
In the current society it is more a question of what level of privacy you are willing to give up. Also if your political vote is that easily swayed that some sock pockets can push you around you have bigger issues to deal with.
Dec 18th, 2019 5:58 pm
You posted a link for WSJ with a news that has nothing to do with election manipulation or misuse use of personal data, a link to a tabloid with an out of context quotes made to seem other than what they meant, and finally a link to a fake news website as if you couldn't top the tabloid with something more stupid.craigsatchison wrote: ↑ Are you just going to ignore the post with the video of the Google Executive directly saying they manipulated election results and are working to make sure they do it again in 2020?
Dec 18th, 2019 6:32 pm
In the video she says they want to make sure that what happened in the 2016 election does not happen again. Your tabloid and fake news links were trying to make it seem that she said they are trying to stop your boy from being reelected. There's a big difference between the two and it's clear to anyone with a brain.craigsatchison wrote: ↑ I suppose that a video of a Google Executive is 'fake" sure. To which, the executive spoke out about the video and tried to backpedal: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9373135/g ... tion-2020/
You're the problem with the misinformed world. You can't accept something visible right before your eyes.
Also I'm in my twenties, far from a 'boomer'.
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