Canon EOS RP Mirrorless Camera with 24-105mm Lens - $1399 (Save $200)

Vistek is selling this bundle for $1259: https://www.vistek.ca/store/439440/cano ... 9MQAvD_BwE

They're also selling the body with adapter for $1299: https://www.vistek.ca/store/434937/cano ... sr-adapter and bundles with the adapter for free are becoming harder to find.

The lowest I've seen this camera go is $1199 body only with a free EF ring adapter (important difference) at London Drugs. If you absolutely needed that adapter, that pushed the body cost down to $940.

The best DEAL I've seen was the RP bundled together with the 24-105L for $1599 at London Drugs. That deal didn't make any sense and was perhaps a price error- don't know how long it lasted. That lens alone is worth $1200+.

Now having said all that, if you're new to the Canon mirrorless ecosystem without the need for an adapter (the basic adapter goes for $130 and is essential if you have older EF lenses) then this is a pretty good deal. With the Vistek pricing you would be paying a $60 premium over the best ever body-only pricing for what is quite a remarkable all-around lens. Using the lens at f/7.1 at its greatest zoom level may be difficult except in daylight conditions.

Anyone who is looking at this really needs to do their research. If you're not a prosumer, you really need to consider whether you need the full-frame RP. While small, it's still not as small or light as many competing non-FF equivalents (Sony, Canon M, micro 4/3 come to mind) which will offer arguably almost undistinguishable picture quality- especially if you're only viewing on small screens or posting to IG. RF lenses, while fantastic, will be bulky and have a cost premium. The Canon lens selection is also quite limited with very, very few third-party options because it's so new.

I've been of that market for a long time, but for a sec I thought that kit had the 24-105mm F4.

lhsonic wrote: ↑ The best DEAL I've seen was the RP bundled together with the 24-105L for $1599 at London Drugs. That deal didn't make any sense and was perhaps a price error- don't know how long it lasted. That lens alone is worth $1200+.

I saw the London drugs deal but did anyone actually get their hands on it for that price? Cause that was definitely a price error. That bundle is $2400.

I would buy it right now if it were below $2000 let alone $1600.

Hmmm...

Is there a better "budget" upgrade for a t4i owner? I assume I'll have to spend an extra 50-100 for the EF adapter for my lenses. I mainly concerned with shooting indoors with kids. Looking for better autofocus speeds and portability...

Also, can this camera use EF-S lenses? I got a few.

Thanks,

I got the RP plus EF adapter plus EF 24-105 (f3.5-6.3) for $1600 early in the year. I think that was a decent deal at the time because the better entry-level modern full frames (Z6, A7 III) were $1000-1500 more, and old cams with better photo quality (A7II, D650) were missing too many features. Plus, I could buy used EF lenses.

However, now you have the Nikon Z5 under $2k, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were some great deals on BF for that or other models.

If you want to save money, you'll need a EF-RF adapter with OP's deal. Overall, I'm happy with the RP and glad I didn't spend $1500 extra back then, but I wouldn't skimp on $500 for a better camera today.

mr_yellow wrote: ↑ Hmmm...

Is there a better "budget" upgrade for a t4i owner? I assume I'll have to spend an extra 50-100 for the EF adapter for my lenses. I mainly concerned with shooting indoors with kids. Looking for better autofocus speeds and portability...

Also, can this camera use EF-S lenses? I got a few.

Thanks,

This is not a "budget" upgrade to a T4i, this is a full upgrade to full-frame mirrorless. If you want to stick with mirrorless, the budget upgrade would be to a Canon M-series camera, not an R-series camera. EF-S lenses can work with R-series cameras but there will be a cropping factor applied to the sensor so your total resolution is significantly reduced.

EOS RP does have phenomenal auto-focus.

lhsonic wrote: ↑ This is not a "budget" upgrade to a T4i, this is a full upgrade to full-frame mirrorless. If you want to stick with mirrorless, the budget upgrade would be to a Canon M-series camera, not an R-series camera. EF-S lenses can work with R-series cameras but there will be a cropping factor applied to the sensor so your total resolution is significantly reduced.

EOS RP does have phenomenal auto-focus.

I bought this camera earlier in the year from Henry's for $1499 with the EF ring adapter which I use with my EF lenses I already had from my previous crop sensor camera. The only downside is that the battery life sucks so you would need to invest is battery back ups. Also keep in mind that this can be charged via USB C. I use USB C to C to the power bank and always keep it in my camera bag. The camera however will not charge if it is on which isn't a deal breaker. I like having the option to charge while on the go. This is a really good price and a good entry level full frame. Here is a photo I took last night.

Edit: Henry's also price matched vistek at the time I bought it so might as well price match the vistek deal with Henry's. Cheers

people still use dedicated cameras?

atomee wrote: ↑ people still use dedicated cameras?

Of course, phone cameras are still much inferior than a M43/APS-C/FF/MF/LF camera

lhsonic wrote: ↑ This is not a "budget" upgrade to a T4i, this is a full upgrade to full-frame mirrorless. If you want to stick with mirrorless, the budget upgrade would be to a Canon M-series camera, not an R-series camera. EF-S lenses can work with R-series cameras but there will be a cropping factor applied to the sensor so your total resolution is significantly reduced.

EOS RP does have phenomenal auto-focus.

thanks for the feedback. I kinda forgot about the m-series APS-C mirrorless cameras... But the idea of going full frame with great autofocus is tempting... Just tried to have a session with the kids and the ol' t4i and the focus was all over the place. i don't remember it being so bad or maybe my kids didn't move around as much. =)

Is this an error in the description?
For this price, it should be 24-105mm STM Lens, not USM Lens.

atomee wrote: ↑ people still use dedicated cameras?

Gawd, there's one in every camera thread...

mr_yellow wrote: ↑ thanks for the feedback. I kinda forgot about the m-series APS-C mirrorless cameras... But the idea of going full frame with great autofocus is tempting... Just tried to have a session with the kids and the ol' t4i and the focus was all over the place. i don't remember it being so bad or maybe my kids didn't move around as much. =)

If you are looking for casual family shots and fast-moving subjects like your kids, I would suggest you take a look for a used Sony a6000 to be honest. It has fast burst shots, great autofocus, and very decent video capabilities. Of course that the RP would be a big improvement but if your main issue is the autofocus there are better affordable options, so the extra you spend on the lens. You are still able to get good money for your t4, it wouldn't need much more money to upgrade in that case. Just my 2 cents about your comment

atomee wrote: ↑ people still use dedicated cameras?

Photographing birds or wildlife in general, having IBIS that can take great low light still pictures, macro, sports, making big prints are just some examples among other things. You can try all that with just a phone camera, but you won't be able to accomplish most of it.

Phone cameras are certainly more than good enough for many, many people, but many, many other people want to do much more than what phones are capable of doing photography wise.

mr_yellow wrote: ↑ Hmmm...

Is there a better "budget" upgrade for a t4i owner? I assume I'll have to spend an extra 50-100 for the EF adapter for my lenses. I mainly concerned with shooting indoors with kids. Looking for better autofocus speeds and portability...

Also, can this camera use EF-S lenses? I got a few.

Thanks,

if you want a budget upgrade for your t4i... I would go with the Canon M series (their crop sensor mirrorless).

While your EF-S lenses will technically work on an RP with an adaptor, it crops the image so it will only be like a 10 megapixel image. So even though it will work, you wont want to use EF-S lenses on an RP. If you have the Canon 50mm f/1.8... that's an EF lens designed for full-frame... so that lens would work fine with an adaptor.

But the M series is a lot cheaper, and even a cheap M series camera will be a lot better than your T4i. Get something with with eye autofocus because it will help with taking photos of kids. Maybe look at the M200.

And with the M series... you can get an adapter and use your EF-S lenses and they will function perfectly.

If you have a lot of EF-S lenses... get an M series with an adapter... if you don't have a nice collection of lenses... then sell everything and buy an M series camera with a the 22mm f/2 M lens. The f/2 will help in low light and it's small.

BillyBill wrote: ↑ if you want a budget upgrade for your t4i... I would go with the Canon M series (their crop sensor mirrorless).

While your EF-S lenses will technically work on an RP with an adaptor, it crops the image so it will only be like a 10 megapixel image. So even though it will work, you wont want to use EF-S lenses on an RP. If you have the Canon 50mm f/1.8... that's an EF lens designed for full-frame... so that lens would work fine with an adaptor.

But the M series is a lot cheaper, and even a cheap M series camera will be a lot better than your T4i. Get something with with eye autofocus because it will help with taking photos of kids. Maybe look at the M200.

And with the M series... you can get an adapter and use your EF-S lenses and they will function perfectly.

If you have a lot of EF-S lenses... get an M series with an adapter... if you don't have a nice collection of lenses... then sell everything and buy an M series camera with a the 22mm f/2 M lens. The f/2 will help in low light and it's small.

I have the original M series camera and yes it is slow for autofocus (improved a little via firmware updates but still nothing stellar), but image quality otherwise is quite nice. And with the lens adapter, I often use it with my 70-300 lens (quite funny with a large lens and tiny camera).
However anyone buying an M series camera, the 22mm pancake lens is a must. It is small, great for low light, and I find it just right for 90% of the shots I want to take. I had hesitated to buy it when if first came out, but I'm glad I did.

The RP would be nice, but not sure I can justify another camera right now.

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The Canon M50 Mark II was just announced today to improve AF but Net already saying overall not a leap change... but price I think didn’t change

Emporium wrote: ↑ However anyone buying an M series camera, the 22mm pancake lens is a must. It is small, great for low light, and I find it just right for 90% of the shots I want to take. I had hesitated to buy it when if first came out, but I'm glad I did.

I always recommend that lens... but I don't actually own it. So tempted to get it. But I bought the 32mm f/1.4 with my M6 Mk II... and while the 32mm is bigger and heavier than the 22mm... it's still a relatively small package overall and the image quality is amazing. That combo can really rival full frame cameras with L glass. That lens is really sharp and lets me take advantage of the 32.5 sensor. Shooting at 1.4 gives me lots of light and my images look good even when I bump up the ISO. I have the 24mm EF-S with an adapter... so it's hard to justify getting the 22 since the 32 lives on my camera most of the time.