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[Best Buy] Denon AVRX3500H 7.2 Channel 4K Ultra HD Network AV Receiver $799.99 (reg $1350)

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[Best Buy] Denon AVRX3500H 7.2 Channel 4K Ultra HD Network AV Receiver $799.99 (reg $1350)

This looks like a good deal on a very highly rated home theatre receiver.
Also available on Amazon for $798, which according the CCC is the lowest price its ever been.
Looks like a newer model coming out in a couple of months, so probably starting to clear these out.
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Pretty good deal. This is one of the few receivers with the new eARC and auto low latency mode HDMI 2.1 features.
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This is a dumb question for home theatre folk:

Have home theatre receivers made any significant improvements in the last 15 years in terms of audio for non audiophiles? I bought top of the line yamaha 7.1 receiver from FS back when I had my discount and havne't updated it since. I understand the newer ones have way better video (4k and all) and bluetooth/google home/spotify support etc. I'm just talking about audio quality or automatically determining the right setting.
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KamS046 wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 1:04 am
This is a dumb question for home theatre folk:

Have home theatre receivers made any significant improvements in the last 15 years in terms of audio for non audiophiles? I bought top of the line yamaha 7.1 receiver from FS back when I had my discount and havne't updated it since. I understand the newer ones have way better video (4k and all) and bluetooth/google home/spotify support etc. I'm just talking about audio quality or automatically determining the right setting.
Step 1: Don't buy Audio gear at Bestbuy.
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paul29m wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 6:29 am
Step 1: Don't buy Audio gear at Bestbuy.
Congrats on a) not answering the question and b) most useless comment in thread.

To answer the question, significant improvements: no.
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KamS046 wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 1:04 am
This is a dumb question for home theatre folk:

Have home theatre receivers made any significant improvements in the last 15 years in terms of audio for non audiophiles? I bought top of the line yamaha 7.1 receiver from FS back when I had my discount and havne't updated it since. I understand the newer ones have way better video (4k and all) and bluetooth/google home/spotify support etc. I'm just talking about audio quality or automatically determining the right setting.
Yes, with proper equipment lossless audio codecs like truehd and dtshdma have appreciable gains given you have a decent sub. Better room correction, for non audiophiles is questionable, but you may be able to tell the difference. What speakers are you using?
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I would say that 3D audio like Atmos and DTS:X have pushed the soundscape further....
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Ren wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 7:42 am
Yes, with proper equipment lossless audio codecs like truehd and dtshdma have appreciable gains given you have a decent sub. Better room correction, for non audiophiles is questionable, but you may be able to tell the difference. What speakers are you using?
As a non-audiophile the automatic room correction is a HUGE perk as its almost idiot proof by doing everything for you. It made a big difference for me in my room. The other main new feature that i love on my denon is the built in Spotify connect, which basically means by SO can easily use it to play her music. Our old receiver she didn't touch (not a tech person).

Another good tip is to buy a refurbished or b-stock unit from a place like gibby's. For this exact unit its $100 cheaper ($110 off if you sign up for their newsletter) and you still get a 1 year manufacturer warranty (instead of 2) and usually they're in almost identical condition. I got my unit from there and was impressed with how fast they shipped it.

That said don't upgrade until you're going to make use of the new features, or have a new 4k tv, etc. Like anything computer related the longer you wait the better you'll get. New models and formats come out every year.
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Ren wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 7:42 am
Yes, with proper equipment lossless audio codecs like truehd and dtshdma have appreciable gains given you have a decent sub. Better room correction, for non audiophiles is questionable, but you may be able to tell the difference. What speakers are you using?
Thanks for responding. I have Energy brand speakers and a energy 10" subwoofer. They were really expensive (even after 70% discount); I didn't buy because of research but because of coworkers encouraging me and me being a naive 15 year old lol.

Another thing that I've noticed is if I'm in any of the 5.1 modes, 90% of content comes out of the center channel. I guess that makes sense since a lot of movies are mostly dialogue. But at the time I was encouraged to buy expensive tower units. What's the point if they're only going to have 10% of the sound. I might as well have bought 5 center speakers since those were those were the cheapest iirc. Audiophiles might kill me but I use enhanced 7.1 mode now (even though I only have 5 speakers). It's rare that I can get 5.1 content anyways and I listen to music a lot.
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KamS046 wrote:
Jun 16th, 2019 1:25 pm
Thanks for responding. I have Energy brand speakers and a energy 10" subwoofer. They were really expensive (even after 70% discount); I didn't buy because of research but because of coworkers encouraging me and me being a naive 15 year old lol.

Another thing that I've noticed is if I'm in any of the 5.1 modes, 90% of content comes out of the center channel. I guess that makes sense since a lot of movies are mostly dialogue. But at the time I was encouraged to buy expensive tower units. What's the point if they're only going to have 10% of the sound. I might as well have bought 5 center speakers since those were those were the cheapest iirc. Audiophiles might kill me but I use enhanced 7.1 mode now (even though I only have 5 speakers). It's rare that I can get 5.1 content anyways and I listen to music a lot.
Yah, it would probably be worth upgrading the AVR. Almost all dialogue does come from the centre channel, but the ambient sounds are definitely helped by the towers ex. explosions. You'll notice this more with movies. If you use kodi, you can try up-mixing the audio to all your speakers with music. I really like the effect.

Just be careful, it's a slippery slope to audiophiledom.
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Have home theatre receivers made any significant improvements in the last 15 years in terms of audio for non audiophiles?
Yes. It will be connector related. The older dvd digital standard won't have the same resolution. Some titles downscale better than others. You might miss a little snippet of dialog.

4k devices are easier to link in with hdmi 2.x ports .
I have an older Yamaha with hdmi 1.x ports . My Samsung 4k blueray player has two HDMI ports, one for the 4k TV, the other for the hdmi based receiver.

For my purposes, this works. Your 15 year old reciever probably has s video connectors with no hdmi. Time to upgrade.
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Despite HDMI 2.1 on the horizon I was happy to jump in on a current gen AVR. I won't need 8K and all known useful features are already supported.

Getting Atmos and current gen Dolby upmixing was worth updating from a 2012 AVR for me. I much prefer the Dolby upmixer vs. DTS which always sounded flat and lifeless to me.

You can spend a ton of time and money with this hobby in all aspects. Have a listen to a few demo setups and be sure what you want before diving in.
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how does it compare to marantz nr1609?
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