Pretty sure they would just say no about larger gauge. And it’s only a single door double garage. But I attached a pic of the garage. Best to install which location red or blue?wackojacko wrote: ↑ I'd suggest near the garage door. This allows you to charge outside as well, running cord under the garage door. If they will put one on either side is good. If you've got two garage door could install them in the middle that would be the most flexible option.
I'd also insist on 6 guage or larger maybe even 4 as this will allows you to install a higher amp charger if you wanted. Builder will use smallest wire they can.
Why would they say no? You're the customer.
This^ Personally I would wait until you get your EV car in the future before you decide on this. I've bought a new build and had 200A circuit. It was an easy run for the tech and they charged me $700 (although I got a MY LR and my wife was adamant about buying the Tesla Wall Charger). So the tech ran the wires to my point of selection and installed the wall charger at 48A. With the cost of technician, the inspection was included as well.EnyCe wrote: ↑ Why would they say no? You're the customer.
6AWG is better for future proofing as cars are constantly improving their battery capacities. Larger battery EV's charge at 48A, so you'd need a 60A breaker and 6AWG wire. Currently there is no EV that can charge at 80A to require 4AWG wire, that was once upon a time when older Tesla Model S/X's had dual on-board chargers but they don't carry that feature any more. Where you place your chargers should depend on what vehicle you intend on getting. Some cars have their charge ports at the very front, some have them at the far back. If you back in and your charge port is at the very front, that's not very intuitive. I personally have mine 3/4 away from the garage door to the wall and it reaches the cars parked outside no problem.
In order to even charge at 48A, you'd need a EVSE, not a 14-50 outlet.
I have a new build with a garage similar size to yours. The widths of these new build garages car hardly be called a two-car garage; especially ones with side entries. The stairs takes up about 2-3ft of space leaving you with effectively ~14-15ft to squeeze 2 cars. As for your placements, they look fine.
What’s EVSE stands for?EnyCe wrote: ↑ Why would they say no? You're the customer.
6AWG is better for future proofing as cars are constantly improving their battery capacities. Larger battery EV's charge at 48A, so you'd need a 60A breaker and 6AWG wire. Currently there is no EV that can charge at 80A to require 4AWG wire, that was once upon a time when older Tesla Model S/X's had dual on-board chargers but they don't carry that feature any more. Where you place your chargers should depend on what vehicle you intend on getting. Some cars have their charge ports at the very front, some have them at the far back. If you back in and your charge port is at the very front, that's not very intuitive. I personally have mine 3/4 away from the garage door to the wall and it reaches the cars parked outside no problem.
In order to even charge at 48A, you'd need an EVSE, not a 14-50 outlet.
The builder replied, they will see what the gauge of wire is. But they can also upgrade from 40 amps to 50 amps for additional $433. Is it worth it?wackojacko wrote: ↑ I'd suggest near the garage door. This allows you to charge outside as well, running cord under the garage door. If they will put one on either side is good. If you've got two garage door could install them in the middle that would be the most flexible option.
I'd also insist on 6 guage or larger maybe even 4 as this will allows you to install a higher amp charger if you wanted. Builder will use smallest wire they can.
My thought would be that the location by the porch/foyer is not ideal. You’ll be at risk of tripping over plugged in cords or simply be annoyed walking over them every time you enter/exit the house via the garage. Think about stepping over a cord every time going out to shovel the driveway in winter, putting out garbage/recycling, using the second vehicle on the other side if the first one is still plugged in, etc, etc.
Agreed, my single is like almost 12ft wide I cant imagine fitting 2 cars side by side with another 5ft thats going to be TIGHT
Mine is 18' and I can get 2 SUV's in, but one I have to park very close to the wall on the passenger side.
