Best value 7 passenger SUV

Should be able to get a good discount on a Ford Flex if you like that boxy design.
If you need AWD, I hope you'll also get winter tires to actually make use of that AWD.

engineered wrote: ↑ Should be able to get a good discount on a Ford Flex if you like that boxy design.
If you need AWD, I hope you'll also get winter tires to actually make use of that AWD.

Flex is a crossover

Hyundai Santa Fe reaching 400,000km, that's a surprise... So why is OP not considering Santa Fe again.

tk1000 wrote: ↑ Flex is a crossover

Well the Sorento and Acadia OP suggested are also CUVs so that's likely what he wants. Not a 4dr Jeep Wrangler or Expedition or Yukon XL, etc that are real SUVs.

freeforall wrote: ↑ Hyundai Santa Fe reaching 400,000km, that's a surprise... So why is OP not considering Santa Fe again.

I am surprised also. I wonder how many repairs he needed to the powertrain to reach 400,000km.

tk1000 wrote: ↑ I am surprised also. I wonder how many repairs he needed to the powertrain to reach 400,000km.

You obviously missed the key fact in OP's post. He is approaching 400k km and wants to keep the vehicle for a lot longer. If he had any major issues with the powertrain, would he include that statement?

eldiablo wrote: ↑ You obviously missed the key fact in OP's post. He is approaching 400k km and wants to keep the vehicle for a lot longer. If he had any major issues with the powertrain, would he include that statement?

I did not type 'major' in my post.

tk1000 wrote: ↑ I am surprised also. I wonder how many repairs he needed to the powertrain to reach 400,000km.

I've had no work done to the powertrain. It is at 380,000 km and I want to drive it for 20,000 more. I guess I want 7 seats, not picky if it's a crossover or full size SUV? Though I do prefer the captain's chairs in the second row. Not a fan of the boxy style like the Ford Flex.

freeforall wrote: ↑ Hyundai Santa Fe reaching 400,000km, that's a surprise... So why is OP not considering Santa Fe again.

I don't like the body style of the newer ones, I prefer the Sorento styling. Mine is a 2004. I would consider the new 2019 Santa Fe's that are coming, they look not too bad.

tk1000 wrote: ↑ I did not type 'major' in my post.

So what would you consider powertrain issue? A minor issue?

vkizzle wrote: ↑ Your best bet is an AWD Sienna.

+1, if you need utility and not offroading then hard to beat a minivan.

engineered wrote: ↑ +1, if you need utility and not offroading then hard to beat a minivan.

Interesting, I had not considered a minivan. Would it make it up a steep gravel road, is that considered off-roading? I only do that once in a while and it's just because that is the type of road, it's not "off roading."

atorring wrote: ↑ I don't like the body style of the newer ones, I prefer the Sorento styling. Mine is a 2004. I would consider the new 2019 Santa Fe's that are coming, they look not too bad.

i agree, i loved my 2005 Santa Fe and regret getting rid of it after 5 years.....do not like the new body either....but really like the warranty that they, Kia and Mitsubishi have over the rest of them
Have been searching for a loaded awd as well, new or slightly used...but not 7 passenger...havent looked at the sorrento yet

atorring wrote: ↑ Interesting, I had not considered a minivan. Would it make it up a steep gravel road, is that considered off-roading? I only do that once in a while and it's just because that is the type of road, it's not "off roading."

Yes, the Sienna is great for anything that doesn't require tons of ground clearance like large boulders, etc. Great on snow or gravel.

hordosr wrote: ↑ i agree, i loved my 2005 Santa Fe and regret getting rid of it after 5 years.....do not like the new body either....but really like the warranty that they, Kia and Mitsubishi have over the rest of them
Have been searching for a loaded awd as well, new or slightly used...but not 7 passenger...havent looked at the sorrento yet

That is my problem, I haven't seen anything I like more than what I have now, other than it missing the third row.

atorring wrote: ↑ Interesting, I had not considered a minivan. Would it make it up a steep gravel road, is that considered off-roading? I only do that once in a while and it's just because that is the type of road, it's not "off roading."

Minivans vary on their ground clearance. The Sienna for example is 6.6 inches, Kia Sedona should be nearly the same. Typical cars will be under 6 inches, this is also where the Dodge Caravan and Pacifica fall into. Medium sized CUVs will be around 7-8 inches. The only bad minivan on ground clearance is the Honda Odyssey its so low that shockingly it has less ground clearance than my FRS so definitely don't go for that one. If a Kia Sorento is in the consideration, a Sienna and Sedona aren't too far off in that respect.

atorring wrote: ↑ Interesting, I had not considered a minivan. Would it make it up a steep gravel road, is that considered off-roading? I only do that once in a while and it's just because that is the type of road, it's not "off roading."

Yes gravel road should not be a problem. You only need a real SUV if you are towing something huge or a Jeep for for mudding/rock crawling, etc.

I’m leaning towards a Pathfinder. Good mpg, hp, and pricing.