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[bhphotovideo.com] Netgear Nighthawk AX4 AX3000 Router 66.59 USD

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Jan 13th, 2022 12:41 am
strife [OP]
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Jan 13th, 2022 12:41 am

[bhphotovideo.com] Netgear Nighthawk AX4 AX3000 Router 66.59 USD

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/ ... &pim=Y
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85
B&H will ship to Canada and handle all tax/duties for you (make sure to pick the FAST & EASY PREPAY in cart/checkout). It's 66.59 usd to Ontario, which is around $85 CAD or so (assuming 1.3 exchange rate).

Pay using paypal and if there are problems, you can at least claim $30 towards return shipping, making it pretty much no risk. Search for "paypal canada free returns"

For warranty, I was told by b&h customer service that Netgear requires you pay for shipping to them, but they ship back to you for free. If you do need to ship anything to the US, use chitchats (google it). They also have protection plans for $6 usd (2 years) and $8.50 (3 years) that covers free shipping both ways.

Bestbuy/amazon have it for $199+tax. Amazon ATL is $127.77+tax.

Getting some downvotes, but they're all for "Other". Give some constructive criticism pls. I ordered one for my bro since he needs one. What's better for $85?
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:04 am
Nephelae
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:04 am

Not the best router but still an ATL for this router. No idea why you're getting down votes. Its a good deal.
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:10 am
fudge_u
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:10 am

Nephelae wrote: ↑ Not the best router but still an ATL for this router. No idea why you're getting down votes. Its a good deal.
Agreed... I've been trying to find the best sub-$100 router for the past few weeks, and in terms of specs this is easily one of the better ones. I'm just confused by all of NetGear's models. It's like they watered down the AX3000 router, because they have the RAX35, RAX38 (shared by OP), and the RAX40.
Last edited by fudge_u on Jan 13th, 2022 10:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:17 am
strife [OP]
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Jan 13th, 2022 1:17 am

fudge_u wrote: ↑ Agreed... I've been trying to find the best sub-$100 router for the past few weeks, and this is easily the best. I'm just confused by all of NetGear's models. It's like they watered down the AX3000 router, because they have the RAX35, RAX38 (shared by OP), and the RAX40.
For myself, I would look for a used Asus AC router and flash Merlin. But that's not everyone's cup of tea. My bro lives in a semi detached, so he'd get more wifi interference so wifi 6 would prob work out better for him.
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Jan 13th, 2022 2:00 am
fudge_u
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Jan 13th, 2022 2:00 am

CircularMotion wrote: ↑ Found this thread about the RAX40 (OP) vs the RAX40v2:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighth ... -p/2016711
Problem is, the model in the OP's link is an RAX38.

*EDIT*

I just figured out what the difference between the RAX38 and RAX40 is. The RAX38 has a Broadcom BCM6750 @ 1.5 GHz chip (also used by the RAX35), while the RAX40 has an Intel Lantiq GRX350A3 @ 800 MHz chip. Other than that, the routers are similar.

RAX38 (launched 2020)
https://routerchart.com/netgear/netgear ... -rax38-454

RAX40 (launched 2019)
https://routerchart.com/netgear/netgear ... -rax40-447

Based on reviews/ratings of the RAX35/RAX38, it seems like those models are better than the RAX40. The deal shared by the OP looks good.
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Jan 13th, 2022 2:41 am
fudge_u
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Jan 13th, 2022 2:41 am

strife wrote: ↑ For myself, I would look for a used Asus AC router and flash Merlin. But that's not everyone's cup of tea. My bro lives in a semi detached, so he'd get more wifi interference so wifi 6 would prob work out better for him.
Asus is decent, but I find people blindly choose Asus products based on past experience or because the router supports Merlin. There other routers out there that offer better value IMO. I've used several Asus routers in the past with and without Merlin or Merlin forks and they're good but if you're a basic user with few requirements, then there are cheaper options that perform similar such as TP-Link, Netgear, etc. Just my opinion though.

Just ordered one for my folks... thanks OP! It came out to $62.59USD shipped to Alberta after shipping and import fees, which is about $80CAD.
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Jan 13th, 2022 3:10 am
henrik112
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Jan 13th, 2022 3:10 am

fudge_u wrote: ↑ Asus is decent, but I find people blindly choose Asus products based on past experience or because the router supports Merlin. There other routers out there that offer better value IMO. I've used several Asus routers in the past with and without Merlin or Merlin forks and they're good but if you're a basic user with few requirements, then there are cheaper options that perform similar such as TP-Link, Netgear, etc. Just my opinion though.

Just ordered one for my folks... thanks OP! It came out to $62.59USD shipped to Alberta after shipping and import fees, which is about $80CAD.
Do you know what would be the best value router for range? I currently use the Shaw provided Blue Curve modem/router and it’s horrible
Jan 13th, 2022 3:37 am
fudge_u
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Jan 13th, 2022 3:37 am

henrik112 wrote: ↑ Do you know what would be the best value router for range? I currently use the Shaw provided Blue Curve modem/router and it’s horrible
Sorry, but I don't. You might have to buy and try, which is what I did a few months back. The one in the OP's link is probably good for small to medium sized homes, so if I had to guess around 1500 sqft.

I bought a TP-Link Archer GX90 router for my bro's home after testing it along with an Archer AX6000, Archer AX90, Asus RT-AX88U, Asus RT-92U (dual router). All are designed to work in large homes (approx 3000 sqft maybe more).

When it came down to it, the GX90 offered the best performance for the price. When going between multiple floors, the Archer AX6000 and RT-AX88U routers took a big performance hit. The AX90 and GX90 gave the best performance when going between multiple floors and several obstacles, likely due to them being tri-band routers. The RT-AX92U routers performed well together but they're pricey, only use a dual core processor, and the third band is used for the wireless backhaul. They also don't have Merlin support.

In the end, it came down to the AX90 and GX90 which are tri-band routers, as mentioned before. I think the AX90 had a bit better range because the antennas aren't fixed, but to receive the full security suite (Avira) and advanced parental controls a paid subscription is needed, otherwise they're crippled. The GX90 uses a different security suite (Trend Micro) and the advanced parental controls come free out of the box. Since no paid subscription was required, I ended up getting the GX90 router for my bro's place which came out to around $250 brand new (I found a deal). He also lives in a 2300-2400 sqft home with a very odd design that had several dead spots previously.

If you have a massive home (over 3000 sqft) and have deadspots, you might need to setup a mesh network. The above routers all have the option of adding a mesh device (range extender or wireless router) to extend the wifi range. Another good option for larger homes is a mesh system such as the Eero and Google offerings.
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Jan 13th, 2022 3:54 am
|Naruto|
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Jan 13th, 2022 3:54 am

Can I load OpenWRT on these? Saw the rax40 is not supported but can’t find info on rax38
Jan 13th, 2022 4:56 am
DeltaSingh
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Jan 13th, 2022 4:56 am

I have no idea about this router, nor routers in general.

I want something plug and play, simply works. I found a three pack Google wifi for $100 and bought em. Haven't received the order yet so there's still time to cancel.

I have 300 Mbps and it looks like sub-500 is fine with Google wifi.

Thoughts?
Jan 13th, 2022 8:22 am
axis81
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Jan 13th, 2022 8:22 am

DeltaSingh wrote: ↑ I have no idea about this router, nor routers in general.

I want something plug and play, simply works. I found a three pack Google wifi for $100 and bought em. Haven't received the order yet so there's still time to cancel.

I have 300 Mbps and it looks like sub-500 is fine with Google wifi.

Thoughts?
I'm a bit in the same boat as you. Dunno much about routers, and debated between a good router vs a mesh system. Problem is, good routers seem to be $150+ and it's only one unit.

My internet box is in the basement. TV upstairs would have intermittent signal issues. Sometimes would drop out signal every couple of episodes or so. Very spotty signal at the edge of my garage and even in my backyard.

Ended up getting a 3pack deco m5 unit and I have full wifi throughout my house, backyard, and driveway now with 0 interruptions.

Used to get 10MBPS in bedroom on my internet box and now get 80+ on mesh wifi.

Mind you I've never tried a standalone quality router but I'm quite happy with my mesh setup now so I'd keep the google pack if I were you as you're guaranteed to get better range if you're having signal issues. 3pack google for $100 seems like an awesome deal
Jan 13th, 2022 8:40 am
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Jan 13th, 2022 8:40 am

axis81 wrote: ↑ I'm a bit in the same boat as you. Dunno much about routers, and debated between a good router vs a mesh system. Problem is, good routers seem to be $150+ and it's only one unit.

My internet box is in the basement. TV upstairs would have intermittent signal issues. Sometimes would drop out signal every couple of episodes or so. Very spotty signal at the edge of my garage and even in my backyard.

Ended up getting a 3pack deco m5 unit and I have full wifi throughout my house, backyard, and driveway now with 0 interruptions.

Used to get 10MBPS in bedroom on my internet box and now get 80+ on mesh wifi.

Mind you I've never tried a standalone quality router but I'm quite happy with my mesh setup now so I'd keep the google pack if I were you as you're guaranteed to get better range if you're having signal issues. 3pack google for $100 seems like an awesome deal
Hi, how many smart devices you have hooked up? I am the opposite. I have one router asus 86u instead of the mesh networks I see that are so popular. And I always wondered if those smaller mesh systems can handle 10+ smart home devices (phones, tv, Google hubs, light switches, etc..). Asking because have a friend deciding between the two. I would think the processor speed helps handle the large amount of wifi devices?
Jan 13th, 2022 9:13 am
hooya
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:13 am

Ignore my previous comments, mine was for AX40 not AX4 Face With Tears Of Joy
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:18 am
XSnapSX
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:18 am

whats better this for RT-AX68U?
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:23 am
Civiljabr
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:23 am

I am debating whether to get this or a linksys velop ac1200 mesh system. Any recommendations ?
Jan 13th, 2022 9:28 am
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:28 am

axis81 wrote: ↑ I'm a bit in the same boat as you. Dunno much about routers, and debated between a good router vs a mesh system. Problem is, good routers seem to be $150+ and it's only one unit.

My internet box is in the basement. TV upstairs would have intermittent signal issues. Sometimes would drop out signal every couple of episodes or so. Very spotty signal at the edge of my garage and even in my backyard.

Ended up getting a 3pack deco m5 unit and I have full wifi throughout my house, backyard, and driveway now with 0 interruptions.

Used to get 10MBPS in bedroom on my internet box and now get 80+ on mesh wifi.

Mind you I've never tried a standalone quality router but I'm quite happy with my mesh setup now so I'd keep the google pack if I were you as you're guaranteed to get better range if you're having signal issues. 3pack google for $100 seems like an awesome deal
For other in this position take my example FWIW:

TP-link C80 https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AC1900-Wi ... 0856PZV6F/
3200sqft home - apprx 20 devices in use. 300 mbps ISP service. Router is located middle floor to one side of the home. No Mesh. Very simple to use (UI/UX is good) Works like a charm. I take advantage of the QoS. I originally bought it because the powerful antennas to cover all areas - and it does.
Will use it until we're ready to jump to Wifi 6e in a few years.
Jan 13th, 2022 9:28 am
Omnicron204
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:28 am

Thanks OP, ordered.
$66.09USD ($83.32 CAD) total with shipping to MB.
Jan 13th, 2022 9:41 am
Scote64
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Jan 13th, 2022 9:41 am

henrik112 wrote: ↑ Do you know what would be the best value router for range? I currently use the Shaw provided Blue Curve modem/router and it’s horrible
Keep in mind that all routers are limited to the same regulated max transmit power (illegal hacks aside), so the pursuit of a magic model with great range is a bit of a myth.

They do differ greatly in their antenna design, which can make a large difference in signal quality around your house. But so can moving or re-orienting the router, even by what seems to be a small amount.

The routers that advertise higher speed actually can't apply that speed in most situations. They differ in having antennas and chipsets designed to deal with multiple high speed clients at once, not a single client that wants to go faster.

It's hard to evaluate the relative performance of routers from anecdotal reviews. Smallnetbuilder.com is known to apply a thorough set of tests, so they are a good source if they happen to have tested the exact model you are looking at. But model numbers are often confusingly similar, and router manufacturers even change the chipset in a router completely without changing the model number, just the hardware revision number. There are sometimes a dozen hardware revision numbers for a single model, all completely different internally. That's especially important when you are trying to find aftermarket firmware - compatibility depends critically on the hardware revision number and the exact chipset used.

The closest test that smallnetbuilder.com has in this case is the RAX40 variant:https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireles ... ers-tested
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