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Buying lottery the smart way

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By the way, BCLC needs to come up with a Pick 4 game like they have in Ontario. Right now, in BC, we have Lotto Max (odds 33million) and Lotto 649 (odds 13million) which only lucky few can win. Pick 4 game is just picking 4 numbers from 1 to 9999, that's odds of 10,000. Costs is $1. Because it is easier to win, prices are smaller, top price is $5000.

Why is a Pick 4 game useful? Because there is a better chance of winning, that $5000 prize or $15,000 price (if you play $3) can help to pay for mortgage down payment, student loan, new home appliance, etc. If only BCLC will consider having a Pick 4 game in BC!

Source: https://www.olg.ca/en/lottery/play-pick-4/about.html
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“Lottery” and “smart” generally don’t belong in the same sentence.
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newsun wrote: Why is a Pick 4 game useful? Because there is a better chance of winning, that $5000 prize or $15,000 price (if you play $3) can help to pay for mortgage down payment, student loan, new home appliance, etc. If only BCLC will consider having a Pick 4 game in BC!
Gaming Corporations (be it OLG/LQ/WCLC/BCLC or ALC) do not exist to help you pay off your debt. :facepalm:
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You can ask for it to be printed at any OLG retailer.
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newsun wrote: By the way, BCLC needs to come up with a Pick 4 game like they have in Ontario. Right now, in BC, we have Lotto Max (odds 33million) and Lotto 649 (odds 13million) which only lucky few can win. Pick 4 game is just picking 4 numbers from 1 to 9999, that's odds of 10,000. Costs is $1. Because it is easier to win, prices are smaller, top price is $5000.

Why is a Pick 4 game useful? Because there is a better chance of winning, that $5000 prize or $15,000 price (if you play $3) can help to pay for mortgage down payment, student loan, new home appliance, etc. If only BCLC will consider having a Pick 4 game in BC!

Source: https://www.olg.ca/en/lottery/play-pick-4/about.html
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If you buy all 9999 combinations, you will have a winning ticket. But you are not going to make Money.
Most people don’t Buy lottery for smaller prize amt. I buy Western 649, which is only sold in western provinces. The top prize is always $2 million and only costs $1 each. I am happy with $2 mil.
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ml88888888 wrote: If you buy all 9999 combinations, you will have a winning ticket. But you are not going to make Money.
Lol, ya spend $ 9999 to make $ 5000
You are a winner
BUT … The House is ALWAYS THE GUARANTEED WINNER no matter what !!!

Lesson everyone needs to know / realize …

That’s how lotteries & casinos etc work
Their in it 100% for the money
The rest of us should be in it solely for the entertainment value
(But it’s far from a good use of ones hard earned dollars … it’s got to be just a bit of fun with dollars you truly can afford to lose )
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ml88888888 wrote: If you buy all 9999 combinations, you will have a winning ticket. But you are not going to make Money.
Most people don’t Buy lottery for smaller prize amt. I buy Western 649, which is only sold in western provinces. The top prize is always $2 million and only costs $1 each. I am happy with $2 mil.
In BC, we have our own version of Western 649. It is exactly the same as Western 649, just a different name that is BC49. $1 play for $2 million.

Looks like people in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba are fortunate to have the Pick games. The $1 for $5000 price is attractive when some extra money is needed. BC is the only province that don't have the Pick games.
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funcanuck wrote: Do you mean display in store somewhere the remaining prizes? For BCLC at least the unclaimed prizes are all on the website.

https://lotto.bclc.com/scratch-and-win/ ... rizes.html

If I do buy scratch and wins it's good to know that not all the top prizes have already been won.
No, I don't mean the store displaying the remaining prizes. But as you pointed out, it looks like BCLC do list the remaining prizes on their website (I didn't realize there is a link for showing remaining prizes). The only difference is Maryland Lottery makes it easy to look up and discover the remaining prizes while BCLC has all scratch-and-win tickets remaining prizes lumped all together on that single page. Buying scratch-and-win tickets is just for fun, to past time while outdoors waiting, etc. If only BCLC display the remaining prizes just like how Maryland Lottery does it, click on a specific scratch-and-win ticket of interest and the list of remaining prizes is shown.

Good find on the BCLC link that list the remaining prizes.
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Looks like no one won the annuity prize for SET FOR LIFE VIII. There are 12 unclaimed annuity prize. And only 3 more annuity prize left for the Set for Life IX.
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PointsHubby wrote: Lol, ya spend $ 9999 to make $ 5000
You are a winner
BUT … The House is ALWAYS THE GUARANTEED WINNER no matter what !!!

Lesson everyone needs to know / realize …

That’s how lotteries & casinos etc work
Their in it 100% for the money
The rest of us should be in it solely for the entertainment value
(But it’s far from a good use of ones hard earned dollars … it’s got to be just a bit of fun with dollars you truly can afford to lose )
Exactly, the odds are designed so you always lose money in the long run. Basically it’s just a smarter way to lose money but honestly can smart and losing money really go together?
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Paigne wrote: Exactly, the odds are designed so you always lose money in the long run. Basically it’s just a smarter way to lose money but honestly can smart and losing money really go together?
PointsHubby is right, the house always wins. Without the guaranteed win for the house, there will be no Casino, no lottery, they cannot sustain themselves if they are not winning.

It is not about winning a prize or losing money, it is about helping the community and people, the money that is "lost" goes to support health initiatives such as hospitals, facility upgrades and community health programs, and to support non-profit organizations in their delivery of community programs and services.

As long as people use their gamesense, there is no harm playing for fun as that fun translate into supporting the community.

Source: https://corporate.bclc.com/community-be ... -goes.html

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Wasn't this always a thing? I remember checking which scratch tickets had remaining prizes left since like 3 years ago...
😎Thanks RFD😎
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6060842 wrote: Independent thinkers would dispute that common "wisdom".
So do most severely addicted gamblers and "professional gambler" type losers. Yet 99% of them still donate to the casino daily. Some good wisdom there for sure. Face With Tears Of Joy
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oilerfan89 wrote: So do most severely addicted gamblers and "professional gambler" type losers. Yet 99% of them still donate to the casino daily. Some good wisdom there for sure. Face With Tears Of Joy
The people in the article I posted would still be working today if they believed conventional wisdom about gambling.
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6060842 wrote: The people in the article I posted would still be working today if they believed conventional wisdom about gambling.
For every article you can post of someone finding a rare flaw in the system they managed to pump, there's a million more people who lost their homes or incurred massive debts they will never crawl out from under.
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mrweather wrote: “Lottery” and “smart” generally don’t belong in the same sentence.
They can sometimes. For example: You would be smart not to rely on the lottery to make you rich.
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