Buying new small SUV

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May 18th, 2020 9:04 am

sonpanich [OP]: Newbie; Nov 20, 2018; 98 posts; 86 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 9:04 am

Buying new small SUV

Hey RFD,

Looking for some advice.

I'm looking into getting a new small SUV with a budget of around ~25k. I could stretch to 30 but thats for sure on the high end. I am planning on financing over a couple of yrs so I would be looking for a lower rate.
I have some interest in the 2020 Nissan Kicks or Rogue, as well as the 2020 outback convinience trim.

Do you guys have any suggestions between them, or for other vehicles?

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May 18th, 2020 10:29 am

number17: Deal Addict; Jul 7, 2009; 1221 posts; 762 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 10:29 am

Need more info ... how small is small? Is Niro/HRV/CHR too small? or you mean compact SUV like CRV/RAV4/CX5? And what's the main purpose? People hauler? Cargo? Or just all weather commute? Do you care about how the car drives? Fun to drive? gas mileage? what is the preference?

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May 18th, 2020 11:15 am

sonpanich [OP]: Newbie; Nov 20, 2018; 98 posts; 86 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 11:15 am

number17 wrote: ↑ Need more info ... how small is small? Is Niro/HRV/CHR too small? or you mean compact SUV like CRV/RAV4/CX5? And what's the main purpose? People hauler? Cargo? Or just all weather commute? Do you care about how the car drives? Fun to drive? gas mileage? what is the preference?

Yes good point. Looking more compact SUV as a general family car and for commuting. Don't really care about how "fun" it is to drive, just needs to be reliable and practical. My only preference at the moment is Nissan because of loyalty discounts.

May 18th, 2020 11:21 am

engineered: Deal Expert; Feb 11, 2007; 20924 posts; 25074 upvotes; GTA

May 18th, 2020 11:21 am

sonpanich wrote: ↑ Yes good point. Looking more compact SUV as a general family car and for commuting. Don't really care about how "fun" it is to drive, just needs to be reliable and practical. My only preference at the moment is Nissan because of loyalty discounts.

Why an SUV over similar sized car? Generally they're cheaper to buy and maintain.

If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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May 18th, 2020 11:25 am

WikkiWikki: Banned; Nov 28, 2016; 22791 posts; 3321 upvotes; Out west

May 18th, 2020 11:25 am

We bought a Mitsubishi RVR a couple years ago after downsizing from a 7 passenger vehicle. No complaints, its a size between compact and midsize.. For the most part it has one person driving it with an occasional passenger. But my wife really likes it

May 18th, 2020 11:30 am

sonpanich [OP]: Newbie; Nov 20, 2018; 98 posts; 86 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 11:30 am

engineered wrote: ↑ Why an SUV over similar sized car? Generally they're cheaper to buy and maintain.

What other similar sized cars are you referring to?

May 18th, 2020 11:31 am

KorruptioN: Deal Guru; Sep 3, 2003; 12968 posts; 2147 upvotes; Toronto

May 18th, 2020 11:31 am

The Nissan Kicks is FWD only. It's a jacked up sub-compact hatchback. The Rogue is aggressively priced. The Outback gives you standard full-time AWD and more room.

Deal with it.

May 18th, 2020 11:57 am

MP3_SKY: Deal Guru; Jul 12, 2003; 12391 posts; 4916 upvotes; Toronto

May 18th, 2020 11:57 am

Are you buying brand new?
I assume so since you said you want to finance it for couple years with a good rate (where used cars never get you good finance rate)

$30k top get you HR-V, Kick, Tuscon, RVR, CH-R.

A base Rav 4 or CRV + frieght and PDI + tax go well over $30k for sure.

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May 18th, 2020 12:02 pm

maryray: Newbie; Oct 18, 2013; 61 posts; 47 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 12:02 pm

sonpanich wrote: ↑ Hey RFD,

Looking for some advice.

I'm looking into getting a new small SUV with a budget of around ~25k. I could stretch to 30 but thats for sure on the high end. I am planning on financing over a couple of yrs so I would be looking for a lower rate.
I have some interest in the 2020 Nissan Kicks or Rogue, as well as the 2020 outback convinience trim.

Do you guys have any suggestions between them, or for other vehicles?

Just purchased brand new "Used" 2019 Nissan Rogue SV FWD with only 75 km on the odometer for $21000 plus tax. Classified as Used because the dealer had registered the Rogue in early 2019. However, Rogue was in brand new condition and never sold. There were 2 2019 Rogues remaining.

PM me for more info.

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May 18th, 2020 12:42 pm

sonpanich [OP]: Newbie; Nov 20, 2018; 98 posts; 86 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 12:42 pm

Definity looking to buy new at this point

May 18th, 2020 1:15 pm

WikkiWikki: Banned; Nov 28, 2016; 22791 posts; 3321 upvotes; Out west

May 18th, 2020 1:15 pm

sonpanich wrote: ↑ Definity looking to buy new at this point

Or you can buy something a couple months used, save money and still have warranty, like the poster above. It just takes some work. We bought used, and still has 4 and a half years of bumper to bumper warranty. Unit was basically new, has under 10K on it and used for maybe 5 months

May 18th, 2020 1:39 pm

clueless dude: Member; Aug 18, 2019; 442 posts; 417 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 1:39 pm

Get Hyundai Santa Fe Sport or Tucson. Best value car and performance you'll ever need!

~teslanaire2bitcoinaireButStillCheapLurking@RFDForDeals~

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May 18th, 2020 2:08 pm

JIB9022: Deal Addict; Feb 14, 2016; 1832 posts; 1222 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 2:08 pm

jackrabbit000 wrote: ↑ We're looking for one also. Either a RAV 4 or a CX-5. But, leaning towards the RAV 4

Looking for same, cars on my list are santafe cx 5 crv rav4
May I ask why you leaning toward RAV4?

May 18th, 2020 2:41 pm

Xtrema: Deal Guru; Sep 1, 2004; 11943 posts; 11952 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 2:41 pm

sonpanich wrote: ↑ Yes good point. Looking more compact SUV as a general family car and for commuting. Don't really care about how "fun" it is to drive, just needs to be reliable and practical. My only preference at the moment is Nissan because of loyalty discounts.

Well, you still have not answered anything. You have a family of 4, 5? Kids or pets? baby or teenagers? You care about rear seat room? Baby seats? What's your ownership length? 3-4 years or 10 years?

I think if you are just a couple or couple expecting 1st kid(s) subcompact SUV like HR-V/CH-R/Kicks would be fine.

I think if you want a bit future proof, subcompact like CR-V/RAV4/Rouge would be better (especially Rogue should be on clearance soon as 2021 is about to come in).

Right now if all you care is $, Rouge should be the easiest to get a discount. But best in class would be RAV4. And given your budget, Rogue is probably the only compact SUV that can be bargained to below $30K price point.

Then you are looking at subcompacts which are all mostly jacked up FWD cars. They are all gutless and not suitable for highways but if you don't leave town then they are fine. But I would buy a Corolla hatch over any subcompact SUV any day unless you are really want that high seating feel.

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May 18th, 2020 3:40 pm

sonpanich [OP]: Newbie; Nov 20, 2018; 98 posts; 86 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 3:40 pm

Xtrema wrote: ↑ Well, you still have not answered anything. You have a family of 4, 5? Kids or pets? baby or teenagers? You care about rear seat room? Baby seats? What's your ownership length? 3-4 years or 10 years?

I think if you are just a couple or couple expecting 1st kid(s) subcompact SUV like HR-V/CH-R/Kicks would be fine.

I think if you want a bit future proof, subcompact like CR-V/RAV4/Rouge would be better (especially Rogue should be on clearance soon as 2021 is about to come in).

Right now if all you care is $, Rouge should be the easiest to get a discount. But best in class would be RAV4. And given your budget, Rogue is probably the only compact SUV that can be bargained to below $30K price point.

Then you are looking at subcompacts which are all mostly jacked up FWD cars. They are all gutless and not suitable for highways but if you don't leave town then they are fine. But I would buy a Corolla hatch over any subcompact SUV any day unless you are really want that high seating feel.

Couple with pets at the moment. We're planning on keeping the car for 5+ yrs. Sounds like cheap Rogues may be the way to go at the moment.

Honestly almost any car would be an upgrade over my current 09' cube lol. Thanks.

May 18th, 2020 5:30 pm

number17: Deal Addict; Jul 7, 2009; 1221 posts; 762 upvotes

May 18th, 2020 5:30 pm

I agree.. I think for future proofing or even for resale residual, compact SUV is better than subcompact. It will exceed your budget though, unless you limit your choice to rogue. I think CRV / Rav4 / Cx5 are better vehicles but no doubt Nissan has the cheapest price right now. Unless you consider used, which isn't for everyone.

May 19th, 2020 12:52 am

engineered: Deal Expert; Feb 11, 2007; 20924 posts; 25074 upvotes; GTA

May 19th, 2020 12:52 am

sonpanich wrote: ↑ What other similar sized cars are you referring to?

Like a Corolla.

If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

May 19th, 2020 1:13 am

blexann: Deal Guru; Mar 10, 2005; 12024 posts; 5144 upvotes

May 19th, 2020 1:13 am

Depends what you mean by small. New CX-30 under $30K all in

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May 19th, 2020 1:29 am

lloyd_christmas: Deal Addict; Dec 22, 2008; 1025 posts; 502 upvotes; Vancouver

May 19th, 2020 1:29 am

I recommend a used crv. 2017-2019.

Prob snag one for under 30k,

Tons of safety features, room for pets, good fuel economy. Find one CPO for added protection.

May 19th, 2020 9:09 am

bembol: Deal Expert; Jan 27, 2006; 19665 posts; 3297 upvotes; Woodbridge

May 19th, 2020 9:09 am

As much as I love what Toyota is doing with their aggressive styling. I can't stand their TRANSMISSION. The Tiptronic part of it.

I get it not everyone uses the Tiptronic but I do, except when I'm using cruise control.

Anyways, if you're on Tiptronic mode. It will still up shift for you regardless even at low RPM and worse for whatever reason if you come to a complete stop it doesn't go "shift" down to first gear. It will remain whatever gear you're on and of course this mean the vehicle drags when you go.

Every other make I've driven with Tiptronic, doesn't have this problem.

If you don't use it then by all means go for Toyota. Otherwise, my pick would be Mazda CX-5.

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