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Cameras at Dollarama Self-Checkouts

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Cameras at Dollarama Self-Checkouts

Has anyone seen these newly installed cameras at self-checkout kiosks at Dollarama? I presumed that these are for theft protection, but the cameras are quite intrusive as they are up close so the customers' faces are visible. Don't see any monitoring policy about this on the Dollarama website. Aside from privacy reasons, I can't imagine that this is good public relations treating all customers as potential thieves to guard against. In the stores in my areas, there is already a staff guarding all of the kiosks full time to prevent theft and to assist customers having difficulties using the self-checkout.

I remember Eaton Centre tried using cameras in its info booth to gather customer info using facial recognition and stopped this practice soon after due to public outcry. Don't think Dollarama will be doing this to survey its customer base, but it would not be hard to implement this using those cameras.

Does this practice exist elsewhere with other stores also using self-checkout kiosks, like Canadian Tire, Walmart, SDM, Dollar Tree, etc?

Edited: x1 to add info about Eaton Centre
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shyhermit wrote: Has anyone seen these newly installed cameras at self-checkout kiosks at Dollarama? I presumed that these are for theft protection, but the cameras are quite intrusive as they are up close so the customers' faces are visible. Don't see any monitoring policy about this on the Dollarama website. Aside from privacy reasons, I can't imagine that this is good public relations treating all customers as potential thieves to guard against. In the stores in my areas, there is already a staff guarding all of the kiosks full time to prevent theft and to assist customers having difficulties using the self-checkout.

Does this practice exist elsewhere with other stores also using self-checkout kiosks, like Canadian Tire, Walmart, SDM, Dollar Tree, etc?
Pretty sure most self checkouts have up close cameras. Some are not obvious. If you don't like, don't use it.
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I honestly was not aware that this is existing practice. Never looked hard to notice the cameras in the self-checkout kiosks. Perhaps it is because the ones at Dollarama have large monitors for you to see what is being monitored.
engineered wrote: Pretty sure most self checkouts have up close cameras. Some are not obvious. If you don't like, don't use it.
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shyhermit wrote: I honestly was not aware that this is existing practice. Never looked hard to notice the cameras in the self-checkout kiosks. Perhaps it is because the ones at Dollarama have large monitors for you to see what is being monitored.
Sometimes you can see the camera feeds on the self checkout employee terminal. Some have them at the station themselves.
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The in your face camera feed is used as a theft deterrent - likely deployed to locations with high theft rates. The establishment wants you to know clearly that you are being monitored in hopes to deter attempts in petty theft.

You see these examples in Walmart in the razor aisle, there is a camera and monitor for you to easily see you are being watched. No different than in some stores there is a monitor above the entrance showing footage of a CCTV pointed at you as you walk into the store.
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I thought bank ATM's had cameras since forever
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engineered wrote: Pretty sure most self checkouts have up close cameras. Some are not obvious. If you don't like, don't use it.
You don't really have a choice at some stores. Dollarama is one of them. They pulled regular checkouts at a few of them.
Unless you mean don't shop there at all which is also an option, one I'm more inclined to exercise with self checkouts being the only thing available.

BernardRyder wrote: I thought bank ATM's had cameras since forever
They do. Typically only bank ATMs though. Private ATMs don't.
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death_hawk wrote: They do. Typically only bank ATMs though. Private ATMs don't.
Yep. Both inside the bank ATM's and the ones attached outside.
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death_hawk wrote: The one great thing that the pandemic brought upon us is the fact that wearing a mask is now considered normal even in places like banks.
I for one am never going back to being maskless.

You don't really have a choice at some stores. Dollarama is one of them. They pulled regular checkouts at a few of them.
Unless you mean don't shop there at all which is also an option, one I'm more inclined to exercise with self checkouts being the only thing available.

They do. Typically only bank ATMs though. Private ATMs don't.
Wow, no cashier at all? The dollarama's around me still have them, no machines.
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I haven't been to a Dollarama with self check out yet.

Regarding go OP's point, I don't really care, cameras are now everywhere. Where can you go without camera in public place?
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engineered wrote: Wow, no cashier at all? The dollarama's around me still have them, no machines.
Only one in Victoria only has self checkouts still has two tills. I think they installed the self checkouts to upgrade the security staff. They have two uniformed and one non uniformed most of the time! It's pretty wild.
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What was the question here?
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Ceiling mounted surveillance cameras are incredibly detailed. They can zoom into your face in HD if they want it.

This is more of a case of out of sight, out of mind thing.

The camera mounted in your face is to deter you from stealing. But even if they mounted it on the ceiling, its just as high def as a close up one.
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Provide the retailer advises before you enter the store that they use cctv you are subject to being surveilled. If they don't you can complain to your provincial privacy commissioner
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engineered wrote: Wow, no cashier at all? The dollarama's around me still have them, no machines.
None. There was one doing something near the registers but they said "use the self checkout"
I was pissed because I had a bunch of stuff and they have the shitty ones. I got "please wait for attendant"ed 6 times because I had the audacity of buying multiples of one item.
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Its the new norm major retailers treat their all their clients like criminals. At least everyone is being treated the same way?
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It would be good to know if this footage is recorded and used ... I was actually looking at these this week lol
death_hawk wrote: None. There was one doing something near the registers but they said "use the self checkout"
I was pissed because I had a bunch of stuff and they have the shitty ones. I got "please wait for attendant"ed 6 times because I had the audacity of buying multiples of one item.
Gift cards don't work at the self-checkouts. The last time I did this, they had to call "back up to cash" and get me my own personal cashier lol

They are doing this at the Scarborough Town Centre (Ontario)
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