Can a bylaw officer enter your property without permission ?

Can't you just follow the bylaws?

Gero43 wrote: ↑ I live in Mississauga. I made a quiet bonfire, bylaw just made it to my house without permission and I thought so many questions for potential debate. Is this allowed? Can they force me to put out the fire? What happen if I refuse to let them in or refuse to put it out ? Can you “self defence” yourself since someone came into your house without permission ?
Fire had to be put out because of “Nuisance”. When everybody in my area makes fires except for the next door guy. So he has the right to call by law every time he wants although it’s not close to him and I’m following all bylaws because of Nuisance?!?!

I heard there is a “loophole”. If you are cooking on the fire pit, they can’t make you stop, is that true ?

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So what do you have? A bonfire? Or a fire pit?

Gero43 wrote: ↑ I live in Mississauga. I made a quiet bonfire, bylaw just made it to my house without permission and I thought so many questions for potential debate. Is this allowed? Can they force me to put out the fire? What happen if I refuse to let them in or refuse to put it out ? Can you “self defence” yourself since someone came into your house without permission ?
Fire had to be put out because of “Nuisance”. When everybody in my area makes fires except for the next door guy. So he has the right to call by law every time he wants although it’s not close to him and I’m following all bylaws because of Nuisance?!?!

I heard there is a “loophole”. If you are cooking on the fire pit, they can’t make you stop, is that true ?

All comments encouraged

https://www.svlaw.ca/blog/details/item/ ... 20property.

Of course they can come on your property and make you stop. Did you apply for an open fire permit and pay the fee?

Cooking food over your bonfire is not a loophole.

https://www7.mississauga.ca/documents/b ... urning.pdf

for your reference

so the neighbors reported you for something illegal.

There are no open fires allowed in the city. Period.

Our previous neighbours had a fire pit and would maybe fire it up a couple of times each summer. One time they had a noisy party and a fire going. Then Mississauga Fire showed up, put the fire out and issued them a significant fine. They never had another fire after that.

op is lucky fire dept wasnt deployed...they are great for morons that think they can just light a fire anywhere...they just show up with hoses firing and soak down that whole area...then leave you with a $500-$750 bill on top of the bylaw fine.

News reports of backyard bonfires going out of control:

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/loc ... ouse-fire/

https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/ch ... e-18331918

Edit: I bet the people who cause these fires thought there'd be no issues when they started their bonfire and that they'd be able to handle it if things ever got out of hand. Nope!

HghSsociety wrote: ↑ Can't you just follow the bylaws?

THIS! People think it is their house and property so they can do what ever they like. I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but if you party until 1 am then dont be surprised if your neighbors are pissed. Not saying OP did that but maybe your neighbors had windows open and your smoke ended up in their house?

Bubblegum86 wrote: ↑ THIS! People think it is their house and property so they can do what ever they like. I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but if you party until 1 am then dont be surprised if your neighbors are pissed. Not saying OP did that but maybe your neighbors had windows open and your smoke ended up in their house?

Exactly. It's not hard. Break by-laws and annoy your neighbours, don't be surprised if you eat a fine. My neighbours around the corner were complaining to me that they were fined $1,250 per person plus several noise and nuisance fines for hosting a 12 person party. Uh, idiot, don't host a party that runs until 3 AM on a Sunday with a number of people that violates the COVID by-laws and you'll be fine. It's simple.

Gero43 wrote: ↑ I live in Mississauga. I made a quiet bonfire, bylaw just made it to my house without permission and I thought so many questions for potential debate. Is this allowed? Can they force me to put out the fire? What happen if I refuse to let them in or refuse to put it out ? Can you “self defence” yourself since someone came into your house without permission ?
Fire had to be put out because of “Nuisance”. When everybody in my area makes fires except for the next door guy. So he has the right to call by law every time he wants although it’s not close to him and I’m following all bylaws because of Nuisance?!?!

I heard there is a “loophole”. If you are cooking on the fire pit, they can’t make you stop, is that true ?

All comments encouraged

ah, yet another great member of society who believes that the laws don't apply to them...

Gotta love the comments and I do like the knowledge rather than trying to bend the rules. I was doing a fire pit not a bonfire, I thought they were equivalents. We were 2 people on a quite small fire.

I was just asking because it came to my mind bylaw have a lot of power to just walk into your property. In this case he asked me and I said yes please come in, but wondered what would happen if I say no (I probably wouldn’t have the guts to say it even if it was my right ). Good thing we have a huge backward we moved the fire pit to the other corner while following bylaws of 12-15 feet I think it was and hope is good enough for Neibourghs. Now, if neibourghs still get annoyed and call again, and bylaw comes ready to issue me a ticket, I would be interested in knowing a “loophole”. I don’t see that as “being above the system” but rather making sure they don’t ticket me on the second try where I modified some behaviour and trying again. Unfortunately Neibourghs are not friendly enough to have a conversation and discuss it.

And yet, I find it funny how someone can call and say it’s a nuisance because they don’t like you and you cannot make fires ever again. Not like noise complaints where they can actually measure your decibels. Would be nice to have something along those lines

Hate to admit this we called the fire department once on a house few houses down known to be a party house and was a headache for the area because they build this mini campsite in the backyard and was burning scrap wood as tinder a 11pm at night.The firefighters brought in a extingisher and put the bonfire out and the landlord was charged about $500 for the false alarm.It seems they previously had another false alarm when a internal monitoring system was faulty.