Guess its everywhere and even free houses are going to be sheepled. There’s your FREEDOMS lolz
Welcome to canada where u are at neighboyrs mercy
Back home you can do anything in your own house they dont have bylaws buy a house there instead
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Jun 19th, 2020 12:49 am
What would you prefer, a bylaw officer showing up or the fire department with a nice bill for you to payGero43 wrote: ↑ I live in Mississauga. I made a quiet bonfire, bylaw just made it to my house without permission and I thought so many questions for potential debate. Is this allowed? Can they force me to put out the fire? What happen if I refuse to let them in or refuse to put it out ? Can you “self defence” yourself since someone came into your house without permission ?
Fire had to be put out because of “Nuisance”. When everybody in my area makes fires except for the next door guy. So he has the right to call by law every time he wants although it’s not close to him and I’m following all bylaws because of Nuisance?!?!
I heard there is a “loophole”. If you are cooking on the fire pit, they can’t make you stop, is that true ?
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Jun 19th, 2020 2:21 am
OP, you are in the wrong here, not your neighbour. You can't control where the smoke goes, I would be quite angry if I was trying to enjoy my back yard and start having to smell smoke or get it in my face. Your smoke could damage your neighbour's property (think of clothes lines and then your smoke drifting into the freshly washed clothes).Gero43 wrote: ↑ Gotta love the comments and I do like the knowledge rather than trying to bend the rules. I was doing a fire pit not a bonfire, I thought they were equivalents. We were 2 people on a quite small fire.
I was just asking because it came to my mind bylaw have a lot of power to just walk into your property. In this case he asked me and I said yes please come in, but wondered what would happen if I say no (I probably wouldn’t have the guts to say it even if it was my right ). Good thing we have a huge backward we moved the fire pit to the other corner while following bylaws of 12-15 feet I think it was and hope is good enough for Neibourghs. Now, if neibourghs still get annoyed and call again, and bylaw comes ready to issue me a ticket, I would be interested in knowing a “loophole”. I don’t see that as “being above the system” but rather making sure they don’t ticket me on the second try where I modified some behaviour and trying again. Unfortunately Neibourghs are not friendly enough to have a conversation and discuss it.
And yet, I find it funny how someone can call and say it’s a nuisance because they don’t like you and you cannot make fires ever again. Not like noise complaints where they can actually measure your decibels. Would be nice to have something along those lines
Jun 19th, 2020 9:12 am
When it comes to illegal fires, always play nice. Don't exercise your rights because the fire department has a ton of power to enter your property to put out the fire, and you will get a large bill to pay for the costs of the truck and the firefighters. It's always better to put out the fire yourself if asked, otherwise you will have the fire department show up and put it out for you. If you refuse to let them enter, that's when police will show up, arrest you and then the fire department will put out the fire anyway.webshark wrote: ↑ If he asked than it means he can't come on to your property. Just say no. Never give consent to anything with any enforcement unless you are 100% in knowing you are not breaking any laws. Same thing applies if police/ enforcement ask to search your car or a bag. You have to give consent. If they arrest you then its a whole different story.
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So, in other words, you DO think you're above the law. Pillock.
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Great .... another armchair lawyer who is giving out nonsensical information. Even a quick Google search will tell you it is far more complicated than your "consent or nothing" theorywebshark wrote: ↑ If he asked than it means he can't come on to your property. Just say no. Never give consent to anything with any enforcement unless you are 100% in knowing you are not breaking any laws. Same thing applies if police/ enforcement ask to search your car or a bag. You have to give consent. If they arrest you then its a whole different story.
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Jun 23rd, 2020 9:02 am
Lots of info on those links.cahk wrote: ↑ Great .... another armchair lawyer who is giving out nonsensical information. Even a quick Google search will tell you it is far more complicated than your "consent or nothing" theory
https://www.svlaw.ca/blog/details/item/ ... -my-rights
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/r ... /art8.html
http://www.cba.org/cba/cle/PDF/CRIM12_P ... lliams.pdf
The Fire Protection and Prevention Act, 1997 also provides for rights of warrantless entry. Under that Act, no distinction is made between parts of your property that are used as a ‘dwelling’ and those that aren’t, and a fire inspector may enter and inspect land and premises, without a warrant and at all reasonable times, for the purposes of assessing fire safety. Moreover, the fire safety issue does not need to present an immediate health and safety concern.
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If the OP wants to talk about "options", he could try to do a couple of things to still have a fire. Someone already was kind enough to post the Mississauga by-law (post #6 of this thread).Kiraly wrote: ↑ Heh. We lived in the suburbs when I was a kid and had a fire pit. They were legal to use for BBQing. Once my father used it to burn leaves and garden waste. It made a huge amount of smoke. Neighbours complained and call the fire department. They showed up in a fire truck and full gear. My mom called out to him from the house "The fire department's here!" I've never seen him move so fast. He ran into the house and back out with a couple of wieners. By the time the firemen came into the backyard he had the grate down and a pair of pink wieners on. The firemen just rolled their eyes.