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Can I withdraw from RRSP under HBP plan?

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[OP]
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Feb 21, 2010
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Can I withdraw from RRSP under HBP plan?

Spouse owns a home currently that is our principal residence. She owned this home before we got married and she still has few thousand dollar RRSP HBP repayment left.

Recently we bought a new home and will close in November 2015. Plan is to make new home as our principal residence and existing home as a rental property. New home will be in both our names. Can I withdraw $25k from my RRSP towards payment for the new home? Also, can spouse also withdraw $25k from her RRSP towards this new home? Seems like spouse cannot withdraw again from RRSP HBP as he balance is not zero yet but still would like a confirmation.

Getting confused with the following two questions to decide my eligibility on T136 form from CRA.

At any time during the period beginning January 1 of the fourth year before the year
of the withdrawal and ending 31 days before the date of the withdrawal, did you or
your spouse or common-law partner own a home that you occupied alone or with
that other individual while you were spouses or common-law partners?

Has the person who is buying or building the qualifying home or his or her spouse
or common-law partner owned the home more than 30 days before receiving this
withdrawal?

Thanks,
RC
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Deal Expert
Aug 22, 2011
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Yes, that is what the HBP was created for.
To allow first time buyers to withdraw from their RRSP with no tax implications; provided it's paid back after the first two years (15yrs to repay 100% of the money that was withdrawn).

edit: you can, but she cannot.
Deal Fanatic
Jun 13, 2010
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GTA
Call the dept. that looks after the HBP. It's not very clear if you can or not.
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Jun 18, 2013
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Brampton
From the CRA:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs ... u-eng.html
Am I a first-time home buyer?

Normally, you have to be a first-home buyer to withdraw funds from your RRSPs to buy or build a qualifying home.

You are considered a first-time home buyer if, in the four year period, you did not live in a home that you or your current spouse or common-law partner owned.

Note
Even if you or your spouse or common-law partner has previously owned a home, you may still be considered a first-time home buyer.

The four-year period:

Begins on January 1 of the fourth year before the year you withdraw funds; and

Ends 31 days before the date you withdraw the funds.

For example, if you withdraw funds on March 31, 2015, the four-year period begins on January 1, 2011 and ends on February 28, 2015.

If you have a spouse or common-law partner, it is possible that only one of you is a first-time home buyer.

Can you participate in the HBP later?

If you are not considered a first-time buyer now, you may be considered a first-time home buyer later, once the four-year period has passed.

For example, if in 2009 you sold the home you lived in before, you may be able to participate in 2014. Or if you sold the home in 2010, you may be able to participate in 2015.
Deal Addict
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Seems pretty straightforward with the above that you or your spouse cannot use the HBP
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If you already have enough for the downpayment why do you want to do this? You only have 2 years to pay it back and mortgage rates are very low. You will save a little money on interest but will lose out on any gains in your RRSP so you could easily lose money depending on the stock market.

Edit: oops, 15 years to repay.
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tew wrote: If you already have enough for the downpayment why do you want to do this? You only have 2 years to pay it back and mortgage rates are very low. You will save a little money on interest but will lose out on any gains in your RRSP so you could easily lose money depending on the stock market.
None of this is true (particularly the 2 year comment, which is very incorrect). First we are talking about a max 25K, the potential return vs difference on interest saved will be negligeable. 2nd, having a bigger downpayments means potentially avoiding CMHC fees which are very signifcant, much more than the potential return on 25K for a year or two when added along with the interest saved. 3rd, you are using 25K tax deferred amount. There are no reasons whatsoever to not take advantage of the HBP if you can.

OP be aware that CMHC has made significant changes this year which will reduce your ability to purchase a 2nd home. Unless you have significant equity in your first home, you may find it difficult to get that 2nd home while still keeping the first.
Sr. Member
Aug 16, 2010
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Thornhill
Your spouse cannot withdraw under HBP.

If you have lived with at her home when you were common-law or spouse, then you are not eligible either.
Deal Expert
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Jul 30, 2007
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Correct

Both are unqualified

My friend had an identical situaton as op.
[OP]
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Feb 21, 2010
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Scarborough
Thank you. It seems that we both are not allowed to use HBP program.
Thanks once again for all the responses.

A follow up question, will I get rebate on land transfer taxes in Toronto and Ontario for buying the new home?

RC
[OP]
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Feb 21, 2010
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Scarborough
Based on my cursory search, since my spouse owns a home, I can't get first time home buyers refund on ON as well as TO land transfer taxes.

Please correct me if my understanding is not true.

RC

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