AMD Ryzen 3 2200G $134.99 Ryzen 5 2400G $209

Amazon has them with free shipping

AMD will ship you an old APU to facilitate booting to perform a BIOS update for FREE, including return shipping.

Interesting product. I really wonder how much GPU performance they can really do if they're not worried about eating into their low/mid end GPU market. Since reviews show the integrated GPU on these Ryzens is kind of like a low end 1030 dedicated. If they can say .... make it reach 1050Ti level then it'll get really interesting! ( yeah I know they'll never do that) .....

almost want to resell my 1500x + gtx 1050 ti to recover $150-175 and stick with the onboard videocard until new generation comes out

Cute I wanted to build my mother a new PC shes almost 80 this might do well.

Amazon has it for 129.99 + FS and easy return. https://www.amazon.ca/AMD-YD2200C5FBBOX ... yzen+2200g

Are there any new soon incoming boards that support these without a flash.......

Awesome Chips, bang for you buck kings for entry level gaming and HTPC application. Great way into DIY as well, Start out using the onboard GPU until videocard prices stabilize, then upgrade when you feel its needed. 2400G with its 4 core / 8 thread CPU is worthy of a discrete GPU down the road if one decides to go that route.

If you can't wait sure buy those.. but if you wait till mid Q3 or tail end Q3 then video card prices may decrease.. but until then.. yeeee.
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-gra ... gh-q3-2018

Last year Canadacomputers was so terrible with the ryzen 5 release making me eat a restocking fee because i did not have a ryzen 7 cpu to flash bios with.

beware if you buy motherboard from there unless ofcourse u have a ryzen 7 cpu to upgrade the possible ancient bioses on these boards.

another thing

intel you wont get the ram issues that to this minute are still on ryzen. I got those 67$ crucial sticks figuring for sure id get dual channel running finally, nope. 3 kits later, its a bad imc on the cpu i beleive.

BBonnar wrote: ↑ AMD will ship you an old CPU to facilitate booting to perform a BIOS update for FREE. Only affects older stock motherboards as most have been updated to support the new APUs several Bios updates ago.

You will have to ship it back at your own cost

plays 1080p in low settings pretty well.. very impressed with this Ryzen3/5 2200G/2400G

If we are getting that picky, they ship it to you with a cooler attached, which you get to keep. So if you value a cheap OEM style cooler more then the few bucks to send back the cpu in a padded envelope, then you may actually profit from the whole process.

My point was you do not need to pay the $20 as inferred by the OP. Also, it's my understanding virtually all boards bought at this time will be plug and play.

BBonnar wrote: ↑If we are getting that picky, they ship it to you with a cooler attached, which you get to keep. So if you value a cheap OEM style cooler more then the few bucks to send back the cpu in a added envelope, then you may actually profit from the whole process.

My point was you do not need to pay the $20 as inferred by the OP. Also, it's my understanding virtually all boards bought at this time will be plug and play.

Pretty sure it's actually the opposite of that, 99% of boards currently on market are not updated for these chips, making it a major problem for a new build.

BBonnar wrote: ↑ If we are getting that picky, they ship it to you with a cooler attached, which you get to keep. So if you value a cheap OEM style cooler more then the few bucks to send back the cpu in a padded envelope, then you may actually profit from the whole process.

My point was you do not need to pay the $20 as inferred by the OP. Also, it's my understanding virtually all boards bought at this time will be plug and play.

According to the orange note inside the cpu box, you need motherboard with the following printed to be able to use the cpu without a bios update "AMD Ryzen Desktop 2000 Ready" and I don't see any yet.

If the BIOS is old then is it just a matter of installing a temp video card and doing the BIOS update, or do you have to install an older cpu and video card to do the BIOS update?

apvm wrote: ↑ According to the orange note inside the cpu box, you need motherboard with the following printed to be able to use the cpu without a bios update "AMD Ryzen Desktop 2000 Ready" and I don't see any yet.

Appropriately named cpu. Amd memeing the year 2000 problem in the year 2018

andyyuen wrote: ↑ almost want to resell my 1500x + gtx 1050 ti to recover $150-175 and stick with the onboard videocard until new generation comes out

Was going to pick up an used 1500x for $150 but when I went to Canada Computers this past Saturday to get a board and a 1030 video card and found out the G2200 is out. So picked up a G2200 and a B350 board instead. 1st impression not so good, my Creative lab Sound Blaster Z and my Intel 600p 256GB m.2 SSD no longer working right while they both work perfect on my Intel Z370 set up. After so many years using AMD cpu (since 386DX-40) they still have hardware compatibly issue.

apvm wrote: ↑ Was going to pick up an used 1500x for $150 but when I went to Canada Computers this past Saturday to get a board and a 1030 video card and found out the G2200 is out. So picked up a G2200 and a B350 board instead. 1st impression not so good, my Creative lab Sound Blaster Z and my Intel 600p 256GB m.2 SSD no longer working right while they both work perfect on my Intel Z370 set up. After so many years using AMD cpu (since 386DX-40) they still have hardware compatibly issue.

We exclusively use amd and have never had any hardware issues. When you say not working right, what do you mean?