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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D $469. 99

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j3welz wrote: A few years down later, whatever i5 or r5 will run circles around the 5800x3d for $200 with cheap mobo and ddr5. Might as well rebuild a cheap system then.
You do you.
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j3welz wrote: The 5800x3d makes no sense in that build with that tier of GPU. Might as well save $300 and get a Ryzen 5600 if you're pairing with a 6600xt-6800xt, especially at 1440p+.
I think the idea is that the gpu is a place holder until a 3090ti tier gpu or above is cheaper.
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FeralWalrus wrote: I think the idea is that the gpu is a place holder until a 3090ti tier gpu or above is cheaper.
Yes, but clearly next gen gpus ain't cheap and the best value is the second hand market right now. For the same money, I could have Ryzen 5600 + RTX 3080 or Ryzen 5800x3d + 6600XT. Like I said, by the time gpus that are 3090ti tier or above are much cheaper the 5800x3d will be irrelevant.
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This is really tempting, but I was trying to hold out to see if there is a variant of the upcoming Ryzen 7000 series that will have 3D VCache and is also good for gaming. My PC is really long in the tooth now so I was planning to upgrade in the next ~6 months... I don't know what the pricing is like for the upcoming Ryzen 7000 CPUs and whether I should pull the trigger on this deal...
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I'm waiting for the 5600 to go on sale again and buying that. For me it is a no brainer. (or if that sells out, wait for 12400F to go on clearance)

I mean it is going to depend on how much you actually tinker with your hardware. I am way too old to be messing with it, I just buy it and keep it for 3-5 years and just buy a new one.

5600 has been going on sale for like $180, Versus Zen4 (7600x) and 5800X3D, that translates into 10% loss in gaming performance for less than 1/2 of the price.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd- ... 0x/20.html

And that's only for the CPU. You also save a lot of $ on cheaper motherboard, cheaper ram and cheaper (smaller) power supply. Overall you are probably like paying 1/3 of the price of a Zen4 setup (even after prices stabilize). Putting that money towards a GPU is a much more effective way of getting better performance since that is normally the bottleneck anyway.

I guess the caveat is what you play as well and at what resolution. I use 1440p but if you go 4k then CPU virtually does not matter at all since it's all GPU. If you do need a fast CPU for intensive productivity related things then that is a good reason to pay up, but you will not notice a difference on MS Office or web surfing.

I remember back in the day before everything got reviewed to death (and everyone got paid a cut to refer you to a website) you would just pick your budget and go with it. Now people pontificate over countless charts, chasing some little bar that is a little bit higher than another one. Unless you are tweaking your rig a ton and competing for benchmarks and such you really will not notice a difference. CPUs have long passed the 'it is so fast it doesn't really matter' point - like upgrading to the latest phone that is supposedly much faster but still feels the same.
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Me: 1440P 144HZ with a 3080. Currently have R5 3600. What's my ideal AM4 CPU upgrade for gaming?

I like having a second monitor running videos while I play games if that matters. Vivaldi browser with a lot of tabs.
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I bought a 5800X3D at full launch price because of this data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

That compares 5800X3D to 5800X, which you can then use to compare to other CPUs, because every review of everything has a 5800X included somewhere. Basically, in a lot of games the difference doesn't matter, but in a lot more games, the difference is huge. If you happen to play some of the tough games that are held back by bad programming bottlenecking to a couple CPU cores, then the 5800X3D will give you a big boost. Yes it also depends on what resolution and video card you have, and the only way to know exactly how everything stacks up is to find a review with your exact hardware.

The most important thing to know about the 5800X3D is that the performance varies wildly by game, so there's no point getting that CPU unless the game that YOU care about will benefit.

Another important thing to know about the 5800X3D is that while it runs hot because it has an insulating blanket of cache on top, it DOESN'T use a lot of power, so you don't need any fancy or noisy cooling.

Another important thing is that you can run it in a dirt cheap motherboard with dirt cheap RAM and it will still slaughter demanding games. Just as the 5600X and 5700X are great value plays for gaming compared to the new hardware coming out, so too is the 5800X3D. People who already have a 2600X/3600X computer with old RAM can buy this CPU and beat the new DDR5 computers in some games. "SOME" games is the key.
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Dec 1, 2013
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Verdic wrote: I'm waiting for the 5600 to go on sale again and buying that. For me it is a no brainer. (or if that sells out, wait for 12400F to go on clearance)

I mean it is going to depend on how much you actually tinker with your hardware. I am way too old to be messing with it, I just buy it and keep it for 3-5 years and just buy a new one.

5600 has been going on sale for like $180, Versus Zen4 (7600x) and 5800X3D, that translates into 10% loss in gaming performance for less than 1/2 of the price.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd- ... 0x/20.html

And that's only for the CPU. You also save a lot of $ on cheaper motherboard, cheaper ram and cheaper (smaller) power supply. Overall you are probably like paying 1/3 of the price of a Zen4 setup (even after prices stabilize). Putting that money towards a GPU is a much more effective way of getting better performance since that is normally the bottleneck anyway.

I guess the caveat is what you play as well and at what resolution. I use 1440p but if you go 4k then CPU virtually does not matter at all since it's all GPU. If you do need a fast CPU for intensive productivity related things then that is a good reason to pay up, but you will not notice a difference on MS Office or web surfing.

I remember back in the day before everything got reviewed to death (and everyone got paid a cut to refer you to a website) you would just pick your budget and go with it. Now people pontificate over countless charts, chasing some little bar that is a little bit higher than another one. Unless you are tweaking your rig a ton and competing for benchmarks and such you really will not notice a difference. CPUs have long passed the 'it is so fast it doesn't really matter' point - like upgrading to the latest phone that is supposedly much faster but still feels the same.
The 5600 is on sale right now https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=216441 for pickup only though (online sold out) for $179.
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Slighty off topic but would be the next logical upgrade from a 2700x user?
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weales wrote: Slighty off topic but would be the next logical upgrade from a 2700x user?
Any of the 5000 series, 5700x, 5800x, or even 5800x3d
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weales wrote: Slighty off topic but would be the next logical upgrade from a 2700x user?
This is exactly what I am doing. Very cost efficient upgrade considering you don't need to upgrade the mobo and this thing seems quite forgiving with RAM from what I've read.

Next up will be hunting some high-end 30-series GPU deals!
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So I bought my 5900x, how would this cpu compare to my own?
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Dreamlo wrote: So I bought my 5900x, how would this cpu compare to my own?
That is a great processor you purchased. I would say it is much better all round cpu that is great for gaming and a beast at productivity work loads. They are both priced closed to each other making it a tough choice. It really comes down to what your priorities are i.e. gaming 80%+ of use then go 5800x3d otherwise the 5900x is the better choice and can still provide great gaming performance when needed. Hope that helps.
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Jan 22, 2015
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I might jump the gun when it comes down to $350, $500 is just too much. Ideally I want to spend $800 for cpu($350)+motherboard ($150)+ram($100)+psu($100)+SSD ($100) then $1k for the GPU - god forbid GPU has become a madness these days, I still have my gtx970 that I bought for $270 ten years ago
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j3welz wrote: Yes, but clearly next gen gpus ain't cheap and the best value is the second hand market right now. For the same money, I could have Ryzen 5600 + RTX 3080 or Ryzen 5800x3d + 6600XT. Like I said, by the time gpus that are 3090ti tier or above are much cheaper the 5800x3d will be irrelevant.
considering he's still on the am4 platform and the fact that a cheap next gen system involves a new mobo and new ram... yah i'd say what he did makes sense for future proofing gpu upgrades
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j3welz wrote: Yes, but clearly next gen gpus ain't cheap and the best value is the second hand market right now. For the same money, I could have Ryzen 5600 + RTX 3080 or Ryzen 5800x3d + 6600XT. Like I said, by the time gpus that are 3090ti tier or above are much cheaper the 5800x3d will be irrelevant.
In the 6 to 8 month time horizon there’s new cards launching as well as a mining flood of used cards. So I probably wouldn’t buy a new card today if I could wait a bit. I’m not saying it’s what I’d do, but the place holder GPU idea isn’t the worst idea in the world. The 5800x3d has years of life in it.
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OOS online now. Just put in an order for pick-up from the Hamilton store. Thanks OP! Nice upgrade from my 3600.
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I just got a 5600 for a new build with 3080Ti early in the month...stop trying to get me to buy this instead...
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Dreamlo wrote: So I bought my 5900x, how would this cpu compare to my own?
Unless you are running benchmarks or looking/comparing FPS, you will never notice the difference.
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the murican neighbours got a 5600 for 99 usd on newegg. i'll pull trigger for $140 cad

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