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- ratatapa
- Deal Addict
- Nov 28, 2013
- 3234 posts
- 1383 upvotes
- Quebec
- mau_mau
- Deal Addict
- Feb 24, 2008
- 3583 posts
- 2275 upvotes
- Mississauga
Easy there junior. It's just an internet forum. I typed 3 words and that's the reaction it solicits from you? People like me are the worst? Wow.
I was merely commenting based on my and countless others experiences with the brand known as RCA.
Someone got their feelings hurt.
- Evendesiredusernameistaken
- Sr. Member
- May 31, 2016
- 613 posts
- 602 upvotes
Right. My posting how CT takes this seriously and how they track people doing this and the results of those actions is being unreasonable. Your overly defensive response, on the other hand, is completely normal.sinankeser wrote: ↑Learn how to read. People are saying to buy a new item and return the same new item using the old receipt. There is no fraud here or loss to the merchant even, common sense would tell you that... but someone who explains their incorrect statement with "Because it is. " is clearly not a reasonable person.
Hey, it's your criminal record, do as you please. But if the serial number of the item you are returning doesn't match the number tied to the receipt you can face repercussions. Cost/Benefit analysis: Is whatever little you might gain worth the potential risk in doing so? That's up to you. Me? I'm not going to commit fraud, even if I'm trying to argue it is for the benefit of the merchant.
- Evendesiredusernameistaken
- Sr. Member
- May 31, 2016
- 613 posts
- 602 upvotes
A lot of these Big Box stores are more interested in the example than the dollars and cents. That's why they have the signs that they prosecute all shop lifting and have police frogmarch employees out of break rooms. It costs the store more dollar wise to do it, but they feel the example made is worth the cost to prevent future attempts.Daijoubu wrote: ↑Against the law? Interesting, but in this case, we're returning the NEW item with the old receipt and not the other way around.
Old receipt still within return period but CT doesn't honor price protection which doesn't make sense.
Once I had to argue with the lady at the return counter, she would rather have me return the old item and rebuy it... and when I asked what prevents me from performing the above and she said none but because she knows it, she won't let me do it *facepalm*, so I bought the item and drove to the another CT to return it using the old receipt...
Sometimes they'll just do a refund on the old receipt and make me rebuy it as opposed to issuing an partial refund, so why they didn't want to do it that time, I don't get it.
I'm not saying you will be busted for it, I'm saying you could.
- sinankeser
- Sr. Member
- Dec 5, 2011
- 579 posts
- 496 upvotes
- Toronto
Where did you explain how they track people? You made a silly unsubstantiated claim about how they track serial numbers. Do you see CT cashiers opening up boxes and recording serial numbers? UPC codes are not unique.Evendesiredusernameistaken wrote: ↑Right. My posting how CT takes this seriously and how they track people doing this and the results of those actions is being unreasonable.
No ones buying your silly fear mongering. It's not fraud because there is no gain or loss to either party in this transaction. IF you buy item A on day 1 and then buy another item A on day 2, then you return one of those items on day 3 to the store, do you think the store would care whether or not you're returning the one you bought on day 1 or day 2? Maybe you should use your own "COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS" and apply it to a merchant or the police prosecuting for fraud lolol...
- foodyforlife
- Deal Addict
- Jan 6, 2015
- 2860 posts
- 784 upvotes
- Toronto, ON
CT doesn't give a ***** cuz they are so stupid to not price protect their products. So people just buy the item on sale, and return the other item.Evendesiredusernameistaken wrote: ↑Right. My posting how CT takes this seriously and how they track people doing this and the results of those actions is being unreasonable. Your overly defensive response, on the other hand, is completely normal.
Hey, it's your criminal record, do as you please. But if the serial number of the item you are returning doesn't match the number tied to the receipt you can face repercussions. Cost/Benefit analysis: Is whatever little you might gain worth the potential risk in doing so? That's up to you. Me? I'm not going to commit fraud, even if I'm trying to argue it is for the benefit of the merchant.
Ever wonder why Costco and Home Depot is doing so great? Cuz they are both smart companies about customer service, quality service and common sense return policy. Not stupid like Canadian Tire and Best Buy/Future Shop.
- Daijoubu
- Deal Guru
- Dec 11, 2004
- 11150 posts
- 3859 upvotes
- Montreal, QC
CT does track SN on car batteries for warranty purpose but that's about it?
- entrepreneurscanada
- Newbie
- Oct 19, 2013
- 25 posts
- 1 upvote
- Smithers
I want perfect gift for my father this year
Hopefully I can find better gift...
Hopefully I can find better gift...
- Evendesiredusernameistaken
- Sr. Member
- May 31, 2016
- 613 posts
- 602 upvotes
sinankeser wrote: ↑Where did you explain how they track people? You made a silly unsubstantiated claim about how they track serial numbers. Do you see CT cashiers opening up boxes and recording serial numbers? UPC codes are not unique.
No ones buying your silly fear mongering. It's not fraud because there is no gain or loss to either party in this transaction. IF you buy item A on day 1 and then buy another item A on day 2, then you return one of those items on day 3 to the store, do you think the store would care whether or not you're returning the one you bought on day 1 or day 2? Maybe you should use your own "COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS" and apply it to a merchant or the police prosecuting for fraud lolol...
- Sinnister
- Jr. Member
- Dec 18, 2009
- 103 posts
- 49 upvotes
- Ottawa
You beat me to it. Reading gaff on his part.sinankeser wrote: ↑Learn how to read. People are saying to buy a new item and return the same new item using the old receipt. There is no fraud here or loss to the merchant even, common sense would tell you that... but someone who explains their incorrect statement with "Because it is. " is clearly not a reasonable person.
- Evendesiredusernameistaken
- Sr. Member
- May 31, 2016
- 613 posts
- 602 upvotes
The incident I'm thinking of was about 8 years ago in response to a large increase in people doing this for profit in Ottawa. Might have been a one time thing as a deterrent. Maybe they never did it again, maybe they do it regularly on the down low now. I dunno. Don't care enough to research more about it.
- Sinnister
- Jr. Member
- Dec 18, 2009
- 103 posts
- 49 upvotes
- Ottawa
Your concern is noted but not necessary in this case. There is nothing criminal about it. Returning the item that is brand new never used with a different receipt is far different than returning an item that has been used.Evendesiredusernameistaken wrote: ↑A lot of these Big Box stores are more interested in the example than the dollars and cents. That's why they have the signs that they prosecute all shop lifting and have police frogmarch employees out of break rooms. It costs the store more dollar wise to do it, but they feel the example made is worth the cost to prevent future attempts.
I'm not saying you will be busted for it, I'm saying you could.
How do you think that conversation would go if they called the police and intended to prosecute?
Candian Tire: "Officer, arrest this person, they are attempting to return an item with the wrong receipt."
RFD'er: "Sorry officer, I must have grabbed the wrong receipt. Here is the correct one".
Officer: "You called us for this ish?"
- tunglete
- Deal Addict
- Apr 10, 2009
- 1401 posts
- 665 upvotes
- Toronto
You must have come from a different country.
Evendesiredusernameistaken wrote: ↑Right. My posting how CT takes this seriously and how they track people doing this and the results of those actions is being unreasonable. Your overly defensive response, on the other hand, is com
pletely normal.
Hey, it's your criminal record, do as you please. But if the serial number of the item you are returning doesn't match the number tied to the receipt you can face repercussions. Cost/Benefit analysis: Is whatever little you might gain worth the potential risk in doing so? That's up to you. Me? I'm not going to commit fraud, even if I'm trying to argue it is for the benefit of the merchant.
- cknewdeal
- Sr. Member
- Oct 1, 2006
- 649 posts
- 131 upvotes
- Ottawa & Brampto…
- deezz
- Deal Fanatic
- Dec 3, 2006
- 5654 posts
- 2050 upvotes
Guys...does anyone own the pressure washer? I'd love to hear any personal experiences you have with it, based on performance and reliability.
Thanks!
Thanks!
*RFD - once you're in there's no getting out.*
*If you wanna buy something, wait for it! Eventually RFD will post it and something in your pants will feel awesome that you waited: your wallet.*
*If you wanna buy something, wait for it! Eventually RFD will post it and something in your pants will feel awesome that you waited: your wallet.*
- waynecarrigan
- Sr. Member
- Nov 25, 2003
- 726 posts
- 421 upvotes
http://flyers.canadiantire.ca/flyers/ca ... _id=104321
This is the link the Vancouver flyer. You may need to update your store to get local prices.
This is the link the Vancouver flyer. You may need to update your store to get local prices.
- Evendesiredusernameistaken
- Sr. Member
- May 31, 2016
- 613 posts
- 602 upvotes
I hope other users on the forums take note of this. I've liked the post. This is how you have a discussion. No name calling, no insulting, a simple post expressing a differing opinion that is respectful and furthers the conversation. If more people posted like this in reply to messages they don't agree with, and less with some of the hostile remarks seen in this and other threads, maybe the most common answer in the recent thread asking about less content in the forums wouldn't be flaming, thread crapping, and trolls.Sinnister wrote: ↑Your concern is noted but not necessary in this case. There is nothing criminal about it. Returning the item that is brand new never used with a different receipt is far different than returning an item that has been used.
How do you think that conversation would go if they called the police and intended to prosecute?
Candian Tire: "Officer, arrest this person, they are attempting to return an item with the wrong receipt."
RFD'er: "Sorry officer, I must have grabbed the wrong receipt. Here is the correct one".
Officer: "You called us for this ish?"
As for the content of the post, I'm not saying you will be busted. I'm not saying you wouldn't be able to get out of it by saying you brought the wrong receipt. Another user posted that it is still fraud. Yet another user questioned that. I supported the user who said it was because,technically, it is - you are intentionally misleading someone for gain. Whether you or others feel it is victimless/morally acceptable is beside the point. Whether anyone would actually try to do anything about it is also moot to that point. It is what it is. I wouldn't do it but, as I said before, everyone else is free to their own opinions and actions.
- DWinSask
- Sr. Member
- Jan 2, 2012
- 700 posts
- 199 upvotes
- SASKATOON
Just because you don't think it's hurting the merchant doesn't mean it's not fraud. You are correct that it's better for them to have the new one than your used one, though depending on store policy it might not make a difference in the end. When you go in to the store with a receipt and the product to return it, you're making a material representation that the product you are returning is the one you purchased with that receipt.sinankeser wrote: ↑Where did you explain how they track people? You made a silly unsubstantiated claim about how they track serial numbers. Do you see CT cashiers opening up boxes and recording serial numbers? UPC codes are not unique.
No ones buying your silly fear mongering. It's not fraud because there is no gain or loss to either party in this transaction. IF you buy item A on day 1 and then buy another item A on day 2, then you return one of those items on day 3 to the store, do you think the store would care whether or not you're returning the one you bought on day 1 or day 2? Maybe you should use your own "COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS" and apply it to a merchant or the police prosecuting for fraud lolol...
- Sinnister
- Jr. Member
- Dec 18, 2009
- 103 posts
- 49 upvotes
- Ottawa
Not really.DWinSask wrote: ↑Just because you don't think it's hurting the merchant doesn't mean it's not fraud. You are correct that it's better for them to have the new one than your used one, though depending on store policy it might not make a difference in the end. When you go in to the store with a receipt and the product to return it, you're making a material representation that the product you are returning is the one you purchased with that receipt.
Its far too easy for legitimate errors to be identified as fraud if this with the case.
It's why when you return something at Walmart, they check your receipt, check the item for defects or use, and issue you a refund or exchange without checking the serial number. Can you imagine the corporate embarrassment if they prosecuted somebody and it turned out to be simple human error? Imagine if the news got wind of it?
Returning a used item with a receipt for a new item may reach the threshold of fraud.
Returning an new item with the receipt for a used item is an irritant. It's far too difficult to prove fraud and not human error.
- DWinSask
- Sr. Member
- Jan 2, 2012
- 700 posts
- 199 upvotes
- SASKATOON
Legitimate errors aren't fraud. Fraud requires intent and knowledge. If I sell you a bike and say there's nothing wrong with it, I'm making a material declaration as to the state of the bike. If there's a crack in the frame that I didn't know about and it falls apart on you in a month, that isn't fraud; it's a mistake. If I know there's a crack in the frame and claim otherwise, that's fraud.Sinnister wrote: ↑Not really.
Its far too easy for legitimate errors to be identified as fraud if this with the case.
It's why when you return something at Walmart, they check your receipt, check the item for defects or use, and issue you a refund or exchange without checking the serial number. Can you imagine the corporate embarrassment if they prosecuted somebody and it turned out to be simple human error? Imagine if the news got wind of it?
Returning a used item with a receipt for a new item may reach the threshold of fraud.
Returning an new item with the receipt for a used item is an irritant. It's far too difficult to prove fraud and not human error.
If you legitimately grab the wrong receipt when returning something, no fraud. If you intentionally use the incorrect receipt to return an item in contravention of the contract you entered when you purchased that item, that's fraud.