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I just don't want the Canucks to ever sign a "big name player" to a huge contract again. People keep saying we need a guy like Shea Weber. No, we don't. Stay the hell away from 8 million dollar guys, they are rarely worth it. I'd rather have an Edler/Tanev combo for about 9 million. Look at what LA is going through with Mike Richards. Frankly, I am happy with what Benning is doing. He is keeping the contracts short and rebuilding as best he can. Guy can't fix everything in 1 year. Also tired of all the Sedin bashing. People are hilarious. They have been saying the Sedins are getting old ever since 2012 when they got eliminated from the playoffs in round 1 (when they were 31 years old). Now they are (prepare to be shocked) 34 years old. Surprised they can still walk without canes. Seriously. Meanwhile, Jaromir Jagr just signed a 1 year deal at age 43 and Martin St Louis won the Art Ross at what, 40? Sedins are still in their prime. They finished like top 10 in overall scoring last year. No need to give up in this team yet, lots of potential. The real reason we didn't go further than Round 1 is because of guys like Kassian underachieving and Dorsett clearly being hurt, along with overpaid guys like Bieksa who aren't what they used to be (and Burrows, the guy who never got drafted and makes 4.5 mil). Those contracts will start clearing up in the next year. And in 2 years, all the garbage will be gone, including Burrows, Higgins, Bieksa, etc. Future is bright.
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i6s1 wrote: Still no reason to give it a shot. If you don't like the arbitration number then you walk.
What I found strange is that Benning supposedly love draft picks. Since the Canucks obviously didn't want Weber's price tag, they could have at least traded his negotiation rights after the Bieksa deal supposedly went sideways and gotten a mid or late round pick for next year.
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Weber seems like a Kaberle-type player to me: third-pairing PP specialist. Not worth what he would've gotten in arbitration.

I disagree about the big names though. Cup winners of the past few years have had a No.1 Norris-calibre defenceman: Chara, Keith, Doughty. Edler-Tanev is a good pairing but not elite. To contend, they need a true No. 1 D. The 2011 team didn't have a No. 1 D but they had a very solid top six.

It's unfortunate they went after Lucic instead of Hamilton.
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Apparently Hamilton is a dressing-room nightmare and the Bruins players demanded that management trade him. Explains why Calgary got him so cheaply.

Weber's Corsi is 49.5% with 51.3% of his starts coming in the defensive zone. Sbisa is 46.2% with 50.5% defensive zone starts. Now the difference in playing with Bieksa vs Hamhuis matters, but it doesn't account for that big a difference. (Since the difference between Bieksa and Hamhuis is only 2.5%, and Bieksa has far more defensive zone starts than Hamhuis, and they didn't play every shift with these pairings.) Weber is just an overall better player than Sbisa, not just offensively.

I still don't get it. Maybe they think they can sign Weber as an FA for less than what arbitration would give him. Or maybe they have no interest in him and plan to have Corrado and Clendenning as the right-handed guys on the 2/3 pairs. (In which case, I think they should have qualified Stanton for 600k to be the 7th dman.) Maybe they want to wait to see what happens with Bieska first and they'll sign Weber if he moves.
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Not too surprised that Weber wasn't qualified. He's a #6 who was miscast as a #4 due to injuries. There was also a risk that arbitration would have given him a #4 salary, and this would have been binding unless the amount was over $3M.

I also hope that Clendening can take his spot as well. It isn't that much of a downgrade, and Clendening has more potential.
i6s1 wrote: Apparently Hamilton is a dressing-room nightmare and the Bruins players demanded that management trade him. Explains why Calgary got him so cheaply.
Hard to say. This isn't the first post-trade character assassination that's come out of Boston in recent years. I don't think Dallas has had any issues with Tyler Seguin.
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i6s1 wrote: Apparently Hamilton is a dressing-room nightmare and the Bruins players demanded that management trade him. Explains why Calgary got him so cheaply.
-Bruins PR Team.
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adamtheman wrote: I just don't want the Canucks to ever sign a "big name player" to a huge contract again. People keep saying we need a guy like Shea Weber.
I agree, but I can't help but think all the recent Stanley Cup winners have a marquee big name defenseman.
- Chicago (Keith)
- LA (Doughty)
- Boston (Chara)
- Detroit (Lidstrom)
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Magoomba wrote: I agree, but I can't help but think all the recent Stanley Cup winners have a marquee big name defenseman.
- Chicago (Keith)
- LA (Doughty)
- Boston (Chara)
- Detroit (Lidstrom)
Keith, Doughty and Lidstrom were drafted by their respective team. It's pretty rare to pick up a stud defenseman via UFA or even trade that will lead you to a cup.

There was hope Edler would develop to one and he has shown flashes but his confidence never got him there. With that said, I'm pretty happy with where he was this past season especially after his back surgery that he said that he would never be 100% again.
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i6s1 wrote: Apparently Hamilton is a dressing-room nightmare and the Bruins players demanded that management trade him. Explains why Calgary got him so cheaply.
I agree with BenK - bruins smear campaign. Same crap that happened with Tyler Seguin. They just don't want to look like fools, which they would have looked like when Hamilton signed an offer sheet with Edmonton. Instead, they chose to give a big Boston middle finger to Edmonton by trading him to their rivals, the Flames.
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Well looky here. Boston traded Jones to San Jose for a 1st. Another Pacific team gets better. We Canucks fans are looking at some lean years coming up until we flush out the old core.

The Sharks were high on Jones but the Kings really didn't want to trade him within the division. I had the feeling the Bruins weren't done with snapping up Jones and now the Kings aren't gonna be a happy bunch about this especially if Lucic walks next year.
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Kevin Bieksa traded to Anaheim for a 2016 2nd.
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scv wrote: Kevin Bieksa traded to Anaheim for a 2016 2nd.
That sucks. Next year's 2nd pick from San Jose probably would have been higher.
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scv wrote: Kevin Bieksa traded to Anaheim for a 2016 2nd.
Would have been a higher 2nd from the Sharks...
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Jim is doing last minute deals. Ottawa can get 1st for lehner but he is only good for second or third.
He got burned twice by Anaheim.

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