CBSA Prohibition on effectively ALL folding type knives.

Mar 4th, 2018 7:23 am

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turtleh [OP]: Sr. Member; Jan 4, 2008; 634 posts; 553 upvotes; Toronto

Mar 4th, 2018 7:23 am

CBSA Prohibition on effectively ALL folding type knives.

Just read on reddit that the CBSA has again overreached with their powers and prohibited ALL folding knifes, by definition changes, except for the Swiss Army type (slip joint, lock back). Started frantically searching Canadian retailers for knives that I use on a day to day basis as an IT consultant and technician and saw that this particular model is selling for lower than usual.

The Squid is a popular example of a compact folding knife that is non-threatening in appearance and utilitarian in nature but is now effectively prohibited from import, and thereby eventually sale.

Relevant Links:

House of Commons E-Petition Link

Reddit post linking to CBSA notice

Who you can contact :

Find your MP

Minister of Finance Bill Morneau's Email *I've never had any luck getting any replies from his office even canned ones

Ministry of Finance General Email

Minister of Public Safety Ralph Goodale Email

General CBSA contact Email This is probably useless

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Mar 4th, 2018 7:29 am

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ElroyJetson: Sr. Member; Jan 31, 2018; 574 posts; 597 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 7:29 am

+1 for pointing out what CBSA has been up to lately. Hadn't heard about that yet.

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Mar 4th, 2018 7:38 am

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thedealhunter2000: Deal Addict; May 25, 2011; 3823 posts; 6443 upvotes; GTA North

Mar 4th, 2018 7:38 am

Can someone please link the Reddit link on this?

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Mar 4th, 2018 7:42 am

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turtleh [OP]: Sr. Member; Jan 4, 2008; 634 posts; 553 upvotes; Toronto

Mar 4th, 2018 7:42 am

thedealhunter2000 wrote: ↑ Can someone please link the Reddit link on this?

https://redd.it/81cus5

https://redd.it/7ouubd

To everyone who this may affect, I guess you could write to your MP, and specifically to Bill Morneau (this guy is actually the MP for Toronto Centre where I live but his office has never even replied with pre-written replies to any of my concerns), and Safety Minister Ralph Goodale.

Also there is a petition on the House of Commons website regarding this issue (mods please if this is not allowed delete this part/post thanks) : https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552 Your text to link here...

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Mar 4th, 2018 8:18 am

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turtleh [OP]: Sr. Member; Jan 4, 2008; 634 posts; 553 upvotes; Toronto

Mar 4th, 2018 8:18 am

Though it would probably be more relevant to post here,

The CBSA has changed their definition of prohibiting EFFECTIVELY all folding knives, except for the ones that lock back or slip joint (think swiss army type). The problem here is that the definition is so broad now that it covers pretty much any other kind of folding knife, multi tool, and yes also folding carpet/box cutter knives. As long as the agent can partially fold out the knife and then use wristing flicking, gravity or centrifugal force to open it the rest of the way, it is now prohibited from import. Meaning under these current rules as soon as inventory in Canada dries up, they will no longer be available.

I'm pretty sure that Husky folding carpet cutter in that hardware kit at Home Depot is not made in Saskatchewan so chances are, it's not going to come through from China anymore.

Relevant Links:

House of Commons E-Petition Link

Reddit post linking to CBSA notice

Who you can contact :

Find your MP

Minister of Finance Bill Morneau's Email *I've never had any luck getting any replies from his office even canned ones

Ministry of Finance General Email

Minister of Public Safety Ralph Goodale Email

General CBSA contact Email This is probably useless

Mar 4th, 2018 8:37 am

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deadice: Deal Addict; Sep 24, 2007; 4081 posts; 1523 upvotes; Ontario

Mar 4th, 2018 8:37 am

I had mine seized a few months ago. Complete B.S. Sign the petition below if it affects you.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552

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Mar 4th, 2018 9:03 am

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stephroll: Deal Guru; Jan 10, 2008; 14999 posts; 34219 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 9:03 am

anyone else thought this was a specialized knife for skinning squids

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Mar 4th, 2018 9:06 am

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BravoDeltaRomeo: Deal Addict; Oct 26, 2007; 2606 posts; 329 upvotes; Winnipeg

Mar 4th, 2018 9:06 am

I bought a CRKT flip from Amazon.ca (shipped and sold from USA retailer though) for $35 shipped. It never showed up, it's been 6 weeks.

Filed a claim with amazon, got my money back in seconds, but would have rather had the knife.

Ever time I see a flipper from Amazon.ca now with a good price, I'll probably buy. Try finding a Kershaw Speedsafe on amazon.ca now, it's almost impossible. They do have a $25 Chill they are selling for $45, but I'm not going for that inflated price.

Mar 4th, 2018 9:14 am

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Hojo: Newbie; Jul 12, 2004; 92 posts; 12 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 9:14 am

So if we bring a knife to the states we just have to leave it there?

Mar 4th, 2018 9:18 am

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BravoDeltaRomeo: Deal Addict; Oct 26, 2007; 2606 posts; 329 upvotes; Winnipeg

Mar 4th, 2018 9:18 am

Hojo wrote: ↑ So if we bring a knife to the states we just have to leave it there?

Nope. They are perfectly legal. They are abusing their power and control over people, scaring them into thinking they are.

Mar 4th, 2018 9:19 am

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ElroyJetson: Sr. Member; Jan 31, 2018; 574 posts; 597 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 9:19 am

Down the rabbit hole, where:

A bunch of scientifically-illiterate lawyers who don't care much about things they don't use personally..
re-interpret the law to add a new requirement that folding knives already partially opened by other means must not open further by centrifugal force.

Mar 4th, 2018 9:27 am

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hoody123: Deal Addict; Sep 15, 2011; 1147 posts; 822 upvotes; HUNTSVILLE

Mar 4th, 2018 9:27 am

I saw a post about folding knives coming under new restrictions and I dismissed it as conspiracy theory. This is really disappointing that it's real.

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Mar 4th, 2018 9:45 am

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alexttp: Member; Aug 30, 2017; 202 posts; 287 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 9:45 am

hoody123 wrote: ↑ I saw a post about folding knives coming under new restrictions and I dismissed it as conspiracy theory. This is really disappointing that it's real.

I am not a big fan of conspiracy theories myself, always apply Hanlon's razor in this regard: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Unfortunately, in our present-day reality, it is much easier to believe that - because of some activist bureaucrat's stupidity - the resulting abuse of power through arbitrary interpretation of the law brings forward such absurd prohibitions.

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Mar 4th, 2018 9:59 am

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pfbmgd: Banned; Feb 7, 2005; 4498 posts; 1190 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 9:59 am

Just like RCMP making laws up with magazine restrictions . The CBSA is joining the the game . These are things the ruling government should be dealing with . Not government employees with their own agendas .

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Mar 4th, 2018 10:00 am

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elcheapoh: Banned; Aug 22, 2017; 248 posts; 65 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 10:00 am

Why does anyone need such a knife?

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Mar 4th, 2018 10:04 am

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Stock R: Deal Fanatic; Sep 21, 2004; 8668 posts; 1514 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 10:04 am

Thanks OP for the thread. Didn't know this regarding the knives. I EDC a very small single handed knife for opening things and general utility. I recently lost a particular knife and was looking at buying a replacement. This is good to know information.

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Mar 4th, 2018 10:10 am

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Slono: Deal Addict; Jul 21, 2008; 1628 posts; 1943 upvotes; GTA

Mar 4th, 2018 10:10 am

How does this knife compare to the Husky branded ones from Home Depot that go on sale occasionally? I have the Husky ones and they're beefy and feel really sturdy with a sharp blade.

Mar 4th, 2018 10:11 am

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hoody123: Deal Addict; Sep 15, 2011; 1147 posts; 822 upvotes; HUNTSVILLE

Mar 4th, 2018 10:11 am

turtleh wrote: ↑ https://redd.it/81cus5

https://redd.it/7ouubd

To everyone who this may affect, I guess you could write to your MP, and specifically to Bill Morneau (this guy is actually the MP for Toronto Centre where I live but his office has never even replied with pre-written replies to any of my concerns), and Safety Minister Ralph Goodale.

Also there is a petition on the House of Commons website regarding this issue (mods please if this is not allowed delete this part/post thanks) : https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552 Your text to link here...

Frig, now I'm thinking I should pick up a couple of extra Spydercos that I have for EDC just in case I lose my regulars. Man, this sucks.

Mar 4th, 2018 10:28 am

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bombdiggity: Banned; Dec 8, 2007; 2666 posts; 2359 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 10:28 am

elcheapoh wrote: ↑ Why does anyone need such a knife?

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Mar 4th, 2018 10:33 am

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Stock R: Deal Fanatic; Sep 21, 2004; 8668 posts; 1514 upvotes

Mar 4th, 2018 10:33 am

elcheapoh wrote: ↑ Why does anyone need such a knife?

I don't know...maybe like:

Opening boxes, cutting plastic ties, opening envelopes, cutting wire, popping packing inserts, opening plastic packaging, cutting security tape, etc?

And that's just generally around the house.

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