CDC shortens quarantine to 7/10 days

I think that's reasonable but I'd be somewhat surprised if it happens.

I'd be even more interested in the pilot that Alberta is doing (based on news reports, it sounds like Ontario is considering doing similar). Basically, you have to do a test upon entry into Canada and quarantine until the result of the test. If it's negative, you can leave quarantine provided you do a follow-up test after 6-7 days and that's negative as well (if either test is positive, then you have to follow the regular quarantine process).

https://www.alberta.ca/international-bo ... oject.aspx

CDC is a fool and those self quarantine are all jokes anyway.

Let's see what China did:
All inbound passengers require double negative test (blood test and nose swab) within 48 hr before boarding.
All passengers landed will be escorted to government operated hotel for 14 days stay and daily tested, then released to taxi, bus, train, and transfer flight.
And China is 0 now, lead economy recovery since summer.

Me262A1 wrote: ↑ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ntine.html

7 days if you test negative after the 7th day. 10 if no test. This will help with people actually following the rules since a week is a lot more manageable than 2.

Bet Canada will not have anything like this.

Could be useful when combined with vaccines, rapid testing, masks and social distancing.

Me262A1 wrote: ↑ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ntine.html

7 days if you test negative after the 7th day. 10 if no test. This will help with people actually following the rules since a week is a lot more manageable than 2.

Bet Canada will not have anything like this.

Seeing how well the American's are managing Covid, I can see why we would want to follow their lead :eyeroll:

dasvedania wrote: ↑ CDC is a fool and those self quarantine are all jokes anyway.

Let's see what China did:
All inbound passengers require double negative test (blood test and nose swab) within 48 hr before boarding.
All passengers landed will be escorted to government operated hotel for 14 days stay and daily tested, then released to taxi, bus, train, and transfer flight.
And China is 0 now, lead economy recovery since summer.

China first resolved their community transmission. As far as I see it, quarantining makes no sense in any country anymore since every country has community spread (minus AU, NZ and China). As long as community transmission is in full swing, incoming travelers are no more significant than a fly in this country. Same for CDC and US

Me262A1 wrote: ↑ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ntine.html

7 days if you test negative after the 7th day. 10 if no test. This will help with people actually following the rules since a week is a lot more manageable than 2.

Bet Canada will not have anything like this.

Toronto Public Health has adopted the 10 days. Glad to see some level of sanity creeping in, as this was apparent for a while (mean is something like 5 days from exposure).

Me262A1 wrote: ↑ China first resolved their community transmission. As far as I see it, quarantining makes no sense in any country anymore since every country has community spread (minus AU, NZ and China). As long as community transmission is in full swing, incoming travelers are no more significant than a fly in this country. Same for CDC and US

It's just low hanging fruit truth be told. Since we heavily regulate air travel via customs and airlines, it's a lot easier to find out who these people are, and where they're going/staying as we can intercept them on entry. We can't intercept every Joe Blo going to his uncle's house in his Corolla however so community spread is a lot harder to get a handle over. There's also the notion of "us vs them" where travelers who aren't citizens aren't prioritized as needing to be "treated well/fairly/the same" by the country and its government. It gives the image that the government is prioritizing its citizens and doing something.

IMO both travelers and citizens' best hope is proper contact tracing. If you had that and could enforce it properly, while not a silver bullet, it would definitely help on both fronts. Right now almost all measures are honor system based things and most countries have shown us that honor systems are only effective in short periods as pandemic fatigue leads people to bend the rules more and more.

dasvedania wrote: ↑ CDC is a fool and those self quarantine are all jokes anyway.

Let's see what China did:
All inbound passengers require double negative test (blood test and nose swab) within 48 hr before boarding.
All passengers landed will be escorted to government operated hotel for 14 days stay and daily tested, then released to taxi, bus, train, and transfer flight.
And China is 0 now, lead economy recovery since summer.

LOL on self quarantine...they call you to check if you're there. Like you would forget your CELL PHONE at home while you're out.

Escort to a monitored quarantine hotel makes sense...added benefit is the Hotel and staff can work and make some money.

dasvedania wrote: ↑ CDC is a fool and those self quarantine are all jokes anyway.

Let's see what China did:
All inbound passengers require double negative test (blood test and nose swab) within 48 hr before boarding.
All passengers landed will be escorted to government operated hotel for 14 days stay and daily tested, then released to taxi, bus, train, and transfer flight.
And China is 0 now, lead economy recovery since summer.

People in Canada/USA would never accept being treated like that you know it... Look at how the covidiots are acting by just being asked to wear a mask.

I think the USA strategy has always been do as little as possible until a vaccine is ready.

Ecsta wrote: ↑ People in Canada/USA would never accept being treated like that you know it... Look at how the covidiots are acting by just being asked to wear a mask.

I think the USA strategy has always been do as little as possible until a vaccine is ready.

The whole mask thing has really gone way out of hand. Most people I know that wear a mask, wear one just so they don't get yelled at. At least that was the case before the mandatory policies came into play.

Those of us who have some scientific background in the area know that if we are truly wearing a mask to protect ourselves and others from this particular virus, then we need to make sure the face covering meets certain measurable specifications. This may explain why despite everyone following the lockdown orders and wearing masks everywhere we go, the case count is still rising. If we truly believe that masks are needed to prevent the virus from spreading, then lets get everyone equipped with the proper equipment. However, it seems that this has now turned into some kind of social shaming issue instead of a health one.

Interesting to note that It seems that before the mandatory mask policies and when the cameras are switched off, many of our high profile leaders, etc. have been caught not wearing their masks so I don't know...do we call them names too? Historically, people who have been called names for expressing a viewpoint others disagree with have often been proven to be onto something. Maybe we should consider all voices before rushing to judgment.

choclover wrote: ↑ The whole mask thing has really gone way out of hand. Most people I know that wear a mask, wear one just so they don't get yelled at. At least that was the case before the mandatory policies came into play.

Those of us who have some scientific background in the area know that if we are truly wearing a mask to protect ourselves and others from this particular virus, then we need to make sure the face covering meets certain measurable specifications. This may explain why despite everyone following the lockdown orders and wearing masks everywhere we go, the case count is still rising. If we truly believe that masks are needed to prevent the virus from spreading, then lets get everyone equipped with the proper equipment. However, it seems that this has now turned into some kind of social shaming issue instead of a health one.

Interesting to note that It seems that before the mandatory mask policies and when the cameras are switched off, many of our high profile leaders, etc. have been caught not wearing their masks so I don't know...do we call them names too? Historically, people who have been called names for expressing a viewpoint others disagree with have often been proven to be onto something. Maybe we should consider all voices before rushing to judgment.

Exactly my point. Something as easy and simple as wearing a mask when you're in a confined space with others is met by people such as yourself arguing over it. Why should your personal opinion hold more weight than the doctors and medical experts? The virus is most easily spread via droplets from one person to another, wearing a mask reduces the droplets from/into your mouth and nose. How is that confusing or difficult to understand?

So is it 10 days or 14 days for toronto residents?

apnayloags wrote: ↑ So is it 10 days or 14 days for toronto residents?

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