Cellphone: Once Data Is Wiped, Is It ACTUALLY Wiped Clean?
Is this a thing? Anything I can do?
Aug 6th, 2020 6:19 pm
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Aug 6th, 2020 6:50 pm
Is that true? What if OP is an international spy, there's absolutely no way for the CIA, etc, to get at his/her 'erased' data? Really?
Aug 6th, 2020 6:55 pm
Aug 6th, 2020 7:04 pm
Heh, I hope so but the cynic in me doubts that, isn't that why big corps met w the US govt? Would've be surprised if one's data is secretly clouded somewhere.Kramy wrote: ↑ Shouldn't be... unless they somehow recover the encryption key. There might be some magic that tech wizards can do to recover that with direct physical access, but I know of no software that would.
Fun fact: Many older Samsung phones wipe themselves immediately if you pop out the SIM card.
Me: "Hey, I'm, trying to unlock my phone... it says I need a non-Telus SIM. Can I use your Rogers one?"
Friend: "Sure, just let me pop it out..."
Me: "Hey, why does your phone say it's resetting?"
Aug 6th, 2020 7:36 pm
I guess you'll have to ask the CIA. And a lot of phones don't "secretly" upload your stuff to the cloud. Most already do it in the form of a back up function.
That's only supposed to happen with the first time you insert a SIM card.
Aug 6th, 2020 7:40 pm
Like I said, I'm cynical and if what I suspect is true, ofc they won't admit it. Just like when everyone said taping up one's laptop cam is silly until they saw Zuckerberg tape his in a photo. DTA.
Aug 6th, 2020 7:59 pm
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That method is completely unnecessary for phones. Since phones use SSDs, there's no guarantee you can write over everything anyway.
Aug 9th, 2020 9:17 pm
The more important question is "How much is your data worth?". And I don't mean to you, but to a third party.
Aug 9th, 2020 9:22 pm
I know, but that's all I'm getting it: that it's possible to retrieve data. The value/importance of the target/data is moot here, heck, someone could have a picture of a carrot that they somehow don't want to reveal to the world for privacy reasons.Gangsta101 wrote: ↑ The more important question is "How much is your data worth?". And I don't mean to you, but to a third party.
If say you were a major drug dealer or con artist (please note this is a hypothetical and I am in no way impugning you), the value of this data to law enforcement would be high enough for them to pay for it to be retrieved or blackmail Apple/Google/Samsung to retrieve it..
If you work for a company that has high value secrets and this info could be beneficial to their competitors, then why would you even think of selling it? Just break it up into little pieces.
If like most of us here, you're an average person, with dick pics and such that you really wouldn't like to see with someone else, I'd say the risk of someone paying the really high premium to retrieve said data is really low. But Google might already have those photos so check and make sure they're really gone.
Aug 11th, 2020 11:19 pm
If you are truly paranoid about this, your next phone should have a MicroSD card slot. Store everything private in the MicroSD card. You will have no worries of hackers stealing your private data from your used phone. When it comes to retire your MicroSD card, smash the card with a hammer or cut it up in pieces, just like you would cut up your old credit card.
Aug 12th, 2020 1:38 am
Aug 12th, 2020 7:48 am
Someone is far more likely to be able to pull data off a microSD card than the internal storage of a phone.rollei wrote: ↑ If you are truly paranoid about this, your next phone should have a MicroSD card slot. Store everything private in the MicroSD card. You will have no worries of hackers stealing your private data from your used phone. When it comes to retire your MicroSD card, smash the card with a hammer or cut it up in pieces, just like you would cut up your old credit card.
Aug 12th, 2020 8:46 am
I believe he "implied" this in the post. But yes it has to be encrypted.