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City of Vaughan Verified Automated Speed Camera SCAM

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City of Vaughan Verified Automated Speed Camera SCAM

Got my first infraction for 46 km/h in a 40 (lol) in like 15 years. Overall, poop happens, we ALL speed. However, things got a little interesting when I started looking into this infraction more, and it led me to believe there’s a deliberate, well-known attempt by the City of Vaughan to scam motorists just to raise money.

1. Let’s talk about the scam automated speed infraction fee.
$60 for the penalty.
$15 for the “victim surcharge.” WTF...
$8.25 for the plate search fee...
$83.25 total — clearly shown on the ticket along with how to pay.

BUT… did you know there’s also a magical “fee” fee of $2 on top of that, which only shows up once you’re ready to pay?! It’s magical, comes out of nowhere, and they don’t even bother giving it a scammy name like “victim surcharge.” They just call it… $2 fee.

2. The camera placement is a joke.
It’s about 100 meters from the intersection where you turn from a 50 zone into a 40 zone with two lanes. There are two nearly back-to-back 40 km/h signs . One about ~20 meters in, the other in about 20 more meters from the 1st sign and from the intersection after you turn, before the camera.
And it may have been ok for those going straight, but those signs are nearly invisible who suppose to see them after they turn to that street from 50 to 40!!!

Now here’s the fun part: You’re turning from a busy two-lane street onto another busy two-lane street. Cars are constantly turning from the opposite lane into their right, and as you turn from 50 to 40 to the left, traffic spreads into two lanes. If you’re behind a vehicle moving into the second lane, you might NOT see the signs because they’re blocked by those vehicles OR illegally parked vehicles, at times. And during a tight turn, your brain isn’t looking for signs anyway as it’s making sure your vehicle actually makes the turn into the right lane without hitting someone.
They are literally jeopardizing the safety by making you look at signs during a turn!!

3. The appeals process is a scam too.
You can immediately request a review, but those are denied with ZERO explanation. If you call or email afterward, the response is: “If you disagree, schedule a hearing.” The expectation from this scam setup from the city of Vaughan(and the ministers in charge of of this money grab) is that people will just pay the fine rather than take time off work and lose even more money.

4. Wait, there’s more!
There were so many complaints about this and another cameras that the city of Vaughan setup and the scam that they actually removed many of the cameras. Some were even vandalized. A few newspapers have already written about it. They were also put on streets with no traffic and not a single accident in the last 15 years!!!! LOL!! There are 1000s of dangerous intersections and places and schools zones that safety is a priority, but instead the Vaughan ON decided to run a bylaw fraud and failed at that.


The city recently disabled these cameras “while evaluating the complaints. They are well aware of the issues and the incompetence... ” Yet, they’re not canceling the scam charges while they “evaluate” the incompetence of the City of Vaughan ministers.
It is all about money...


I am all for safety. but there's a fine line between safety and incompetence. I can afford to pay the fee, but many complaints showed that there are many who cannot. It's a big fine in the end. With high prices, low salaries, many feeling it. Many elders live in the area, there are 5 retirement residences and those occupied by by older people and 1 said he had to wait for his next OAS and CPP cheque in order to pay the fine while stating the same issues I've raised.
UNACCEPTABLE!!
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I believe the $2 is like a credit card processing fee or something. City of Toronto has something similar as well (if I recalled correctly).

what location did you get hit from ?
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vkizzle wrote: Damn, 6km/h over? Thanks for taking one for the team.
the cameras are setup in community safety zones..so usually 40km/h zones... 6 km/h is 15% over. in community safety zones or local roads where limit is 50km/h....best to stay within 5km/h over
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dazz wrote: 2. The camera placement is a joke.
It’s about 100 meters from the intersection where you turn from a 50 zone into a 40 zone with two lanes. There are two nearly back-to-back 40 km/h signs . One about ~20 meters in, the other in about 20 more meters from the 1st sign and from the intersection after you turn, before the camera.
And it may have been ok for those going straight, but those signs are nearly invisible who suppose to see them after they turn to that street from 50 to 40!!!
You have my sympathy for that part, assuming the nature of the street didn't change (i e. main commercial street into residential).
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StatsGuy wrote: the cameras are setup in community safety zones..so usually 40km/h zones... 6 km/h is 15% over. in community safety zones or local roads where limit is 50km/h....best to stay within 5km/h over
Depends on the municipality. York Region is ZERO tolerance so once you're 1km over you're cooked.
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eshum wrote: You have my sympathy for that part, assuming the nature of the street didn't change (i e. main commercial street into residential).
The whole thing is nothing but a cash grab. Don't know why ppl receiving these tickets are surprised. Just treat all camera enforced zones as zero speeding...
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Victim surcharge on provincial offences has been a thing since the Mike Harris government introduced it in 2000.
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EP32k2 wrote: Depends on the municipality. York Region is ZERO tolerance so once you're 1km over you're cooked.
Yes, OP said it was city of Vaughan which is different than York Region. York region cameras are on regional roads and city of Vaughan will be on municipal roads

Having said that, I've definitely driven past York region cameras over the speed limit but under 5.. have you received a YORK REGION camera ticket for less than 5km/h over?
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EP32k2 wrote: Depends on the municipality. York Region is ZERO tolerance so once you're 1km over you're cooked.
I’d like to know how they get away with that.
Usually there’s a margin of error factored into those radar devices, as no radar device can be 100% accurate and in line at all times.
But as stated above, I’m sure they figure most people will just pay up, rather than lose more than the value of the ticket in lost wages trying to fight it.
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StatsGuy wrote: Yes, OP said it was city of Vaughan which is different than York Region. York region cameras are on regional roads and city of Vaughan will be on municipal roads

Having said that, I've definitely driven past York region cameras over the speed limit but under 5.. have you received a YORK REGION camera ticket for less than 5km/h over?
No. As I said any camera and I stick with the limit. Why take the risk and get caught by the cash grab?

Really, are we going to argue over semantics?
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coolintheshade wrote: I’d like to know how they get away with that.
Usually there’s a margin of error factored into those radar devices, as no radar device can be 100% accurate and in line at all times.
But as stated above, I’m sure they figure most people will just pay up, rather than lose more than the value of the ticket in lost wages trying to fight it.
Here's a tidbit most don't know. Speedometer in cars are purposely calibrated to be optimistic.
Some more than others, German cars are probably the worse when it comes to this as they are nearly 5% for some cars.
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mrweather wrote: Victim surcharge on provincial offences has been a thing since the Mike Harris government introduced it in 2000.
I am the victim here... give me that $15. If they going to name random scam charges, they should at least figure out an appropriate name. Or better, why just not make 83.25, since all of those are mandatory. It's not like I can call and say, "hey, I am except from the victim surcharge scam tax"
What's next, a 0.99cent parking fine and then 59.01 worth of: IT tax, camera cost tax, employee cost tax, camera property use tax,etc??! This is childish in my opinion and the extra fees are not readily available! They don't advertise all the extras and that's just bad business.



My main issue here is the position of the signs and the fact they are aware of this scam and that are reviewing 100s or 1000s of complaints while still demanding payments. And THAT'S that real scam.
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EP32k2 wrote: No. As I said any camera and I stick with the limit. Why take the risk and get caught by the cash grab?

Really, are we going to argue over semantics?
It's not semantics? I mean there's a huge difference between York Region speed cameras and Vaughan speed cameras. They're totally different jurisdictions?

I mean is the difference between 2141 Major Mackenzie Drive, Vaughan (where you go dispute your Vaughan camera ticket) vs 17150 Yonge Street Newmarket just semantics?

So are you saying zero tolerance is York Region or Vaughan? It's not semantics, they're totally different things. If you provide your source, then they should clearly say whether it's York Region that's zero tolerance or Vaughan
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EP32k2 wrote: Depends on the municipality. York Region is ZERO tolerance so once you're 1km over you're cooked.
Stop with the crap about tickets for going 1 over the limit. I've never see or heard of anyone getting one and I bet nobody else has either. Post some proof or stop spreading misinformation.
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I don't live in Vaughan but I'd read the stories. I'd be pissed to find out what I thought was a Vaughna camera was instead an operational York camera.

I'd never heard there were differing possible sources of these things.

End of day, cash grab or not, hard to argue they are effective at reducing speeds. I don't like them but I'd be pleased if they put one outside my kids school, so that says something.
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tew wrote: Stop with the crap about tickets for going 1 over the limit. I've never see or heard of anyone getting one and I bet nobody else has either. Post some proof or stop spreading misinformation.
Man you're thick. Go speed in a camera enforced zone in Markham and report back then.

Why don't you show proof that there's a so called buffer?

Who is misinforming who here.
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StatsGuy wrote: It's not semantics? I mean there's a huge difference between York Region speed cameras and Vaughan speed cameras. They're totally different jurisdictions?

I mean is the difference between 2141 Major Mackenzie Drive, Vaughan (where you go dispute your Vaughan camera ticket) vs 17150 Yonge Street Newmarket just semantics?

So are you saying zero tolerance is York Region or Vaughan? It's not semantics, they're totally different things. If you provide your source, then they should clearly say whether it's York Region that's zero tolerance or Vaughan
Sure, just keep speeding then when you see ASE.

Remember people, if you ever receive a ticket going just 5 over the limit contact StatsGuy to pay it.

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