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Code re: Light Fixture and Heat Shrink

I recently purchased LED wall sconces from WayFair. To my surprise, the fixtures are wired like I have never seen before (see attached picture).

Anyone know whether heat shrink used is safe and/or compliant with code in Ontario? There is also some zip-ties. My gut feeling says to just return them.
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drivetolive wrote: I recently purchased an open-box light fixture (LED wall sconce). The fixture's hot and neutral wires were cut too short and subsequently extended with heat shrink.

Anyone know whether heat shrink to extend a fixture's wire is safe and/or compliant with code in Ontario?
Cut it off and wire nut/Wago it to the romex in the box.
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you only need to connect to the positive (black) and negative (white) wires, its possible they are bonding aluminum and copper and have heat shrank the wires to make them safe. DONT TOUCH THEM.
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Kasakato wrote: Cut it off and wire nut/Wago it to the romex in the box.
are you serious? that is tampering with the light fixture. the only wires he or she is allowed to connect to are the black and white pigtails with copper ends on them, the heat shrinked tubing wrapped ones are part of the actual light fixture
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It cetlus listed, it’s fine.
And ya don’t modify the wiring on the light side.
That probably will make it uncertified.
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GoodFellaz wrote: are you serious? that is tampering with the light fixture. the only wires he or she is allowed to connect to are the black and white pigtails with copper ends on them, the heat shrinked tubing wrapped ones are part of the actual light fixture
There was no pic. Pre edit it was a DIY repair with heat shrink.
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Thanks all. To clarify, my original post did not have a picture. Additionally, I had thought the wiring was limited to an open box light, but it was also wired similarly with the unopened box.

Nevertheless, you learn something new everyday. Having installed a gazzilion light fixtures before, I have never seen heat shrink and zip ties!
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Looks like butt connectors in the heat shrink:

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I don't know why they're manufacturing it this way, but I guess there's nothing wrong with butt connectors, although I've only seen them myself with low voltage cables (DSL/phone) because they're easy for the Bell and alarm company techs to use.
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GoodFellaz wrote: you only need to connect to the positive (black) and negative (white) wires, its possible they are bonding aluminum and copper and have heat shrank the wires to make them safe. DONT TOUCH THEM.
Pretty sure that light is not DC powered to have negative and positive.
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its AC, it uses HYDRO
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drivetolive wrote: I recently purchased LED wall sconces from WayFair. To my surprise, the fixtures are wired like I have never seen before (see attached picture).

Anyone know whether heat shrink used is safe and/or compliant with code in Ontario? There is also some zip-ties. My gut feeling says to just return them.
Are the bulbs fixed or replaceable? Looks like the hot and neutral are tied together through that device, is that the case? The other leads look like they have resistors on them.
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Kevin711 wrote: Pretty sure that light is not DC powered to have negative and positive.
I’ve explained that to him numerous times in electrical threads but there’s no convincing him he is wrong and that positive and negative do not exist in alternating current.
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jm1 wrote: Looks like butt connectors in the heat shrink:

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I don't know why they're manufacturing it this way, but I guess there's nothing wrong with butt connectors, although I've only seen them myself with low voltage cables (DSL/phone) because they're easy for the Bell and alarm company techs to use.
lamin wrote: Are the bulbs fixed or replaceable? Looks like the hot and neutral are tied together through that device, is that the case? The other leads look like they have resistors on them.
I doubt those are butt connectors.

It is likely a metal oxide varistor (MOV) underneath the heat shrink tubing connecting the black line and the white neutral for surge protection.
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ChicoQuente wrote: I’ve explained that to him numerous times in electrical threads but there’s no convincing him he is wrong and that positive and negative do not exist in alternating current.
I know man, I tried convincing him too., he don't listen!! at least you and I are on the same page
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GoodFellaz wrote: I know man, I tried convincing him too., he don't listen!! at least you and I are on the same page
You misunderstood my post. I was agreeing with @Kevin711 that you were incorrect in using the terms positive and negative. I’ve told you this in numerous threads now. There is NO positive and negative in alternating current (AC). There is only positive and negative in direct current (DC).
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ChicoQuente wrote: You misunderstood my post. I was agreeing with @[Kevin711] that you were incorrect in using the terms positive and negative. I’ve told you this in numerous threads now. There is NO positive and negative in alternating current (AC). There is only positive and negative in direct current (DC).
oh really? I dont recall. thanks for the positive info! I will not make negative comments about how alternating current works, thanks man!
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