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College or University?

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College or University?

I already have a degree in accounting but I've been struggling to find any real employment in the last two years in my field and have mostly been doing other lines of work. I was in Edmonton for school and was working there but I recently moved back up to my hometown in northern Canada for temp work and I was then let go when the contract was up.

I was catching up with a friend of mine that worked in the oilsands and he suggested I look at NAIT and SAIT since they offer programs that have great opportunities. I did and I ended up applying for the power engineering tech 2 year program at both schools. I recently found out that I was accepted at both schools but because of all the applicants I was placed on a wait list so instead of starting in fall of 2013 I'll be starting in fall of 2014. My family thinks that I should enroll back into university in engineering instead, after telling them that most of the power engineering type work will probably be shift type work they were disappointed. My family is also very traditional asian so shift work in the oilsands to them is like a death sentence. I would have maybe 3 or 4 courses that could be transferred and I would be able to start this fall. My main issue is cost and time at this point. My first degree was pretty much all paid for through scholarships and northern Canada bursaries which I've used up and don't qualify for anymore. Both programs seem to have great employment prospects although the friend that is working in the oilsands was an engineer grad that's not working in his field but that's just outlier example. The other issue which is a petty one is pride. Going to college after a degree feels like a downgrade. I know it shouldn't bother me but there is always this lingering feeling at the back of my head that's telling my that I can do better.

I'm just looking for others input and advice on my situation.
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You got waitlisted with a university degree?
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you had enough schooling, just make use of your accounting degree and try to apply everywhere until you get a job, my friend is an accountant and he works in Mississauga, there are still jobs for accountants.
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Accounting is pretty saturated though...if it makes you feel any better, I know people with the same degree as you (and worse) and they are bitterly unemployed.

Most of the bcomm unemployed people I know though majored in marketing and other "soft" subjects...so at least the skills you have are a bit more technical and marketable.
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phenakami wrote: I already have a degree in accounting but I've been struggling to find any real employment in the last two years in my field and have mostly been doing other lines of work. I was in Edmonton for school and was working there but I recently moved back up to my hometown in northern Canada for temp work and I was then let go when the contract was up.

I was catching up with a friend of mine that worked in the oilsands and he suggested I look at NAIT and SAIT since they offer programs that have great opportunities. I did and I ended up applying for the power engineering tech 2 year program at both schools. I recently found out that I was accepted at both schools but because of all the applicants I was placed on a wait list so instead of starting in fall of 2013 I'll be starting in fall of 2014. My family thinks that I should enroll back into university in engineering instead, after telling them that most of the power engineering type work will probably be shift type work they were disappointed. My family is also very traditional asian so shift work in the oilsands to them is like a death sentence. I would have maybe 3 or 4 courses that could be transferred and I would be able to start this fall. My main issue is cost and time at this point. My first degree was pretty much all paid for through scholarships and northern Canada bursaries which I've used up and don't qualify for anymore. Both programs seem to have great employment prospects although the friend that is working in the oilsands was an engineer grad that's not working in his field but that's just outlier example. The other issue which is a petty one is pride. Going to college after a degree feels like a downgrade. I know it shouldn't bother me but there is always this lingering feeling at the back of my head that's telling my that I can do better.

I'm just looking for others input and advice on my situation.
Based on this, I would say go back for the engineering degree. You don't want to put shame and taint on your family bloodlines.
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Syne wrote: You got waitlisted with a university degree?
College is first come, first serve for a lot of programs. I have friends who applied after the equal consideration date and were waitlisted, even with fantastic GPAs.
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Syne wrote: You got waitlisted with a university degree?
It's first come first serve and spots were limited.
JK400 wrote: Based on this, I would say go back for the engineering degree. You don't want to put shame and taint on your family bloodlines.
My family has always wanted me to work in a more "prestigious" type of work which is why I went with accounting even though I found it insanely boring. If I started university at an older age instead of at 18 then I would have done things differently but can't do much about it now. My mother owns a restaurant in my hometown where we get a lot of mining camp workers so she thinks I will probably end up like them if I were to work in the oilsands. They're nice, spend a lot and tip well but they can be rude and swear a lot. There have also been a few occasions were a fight has broken out here.
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I don't know . . . this sounds fishy, because you should still be able to find a job in accounting that allows you to pursue a designation. Whats your GPA? Social skills? What parts of Canada are you applying? If you need to move, do so. Yes, accounting is boring for most people, that's why I did not choose that concentration for my Bcomm. Regardless, they make a good money. I'm not even from a great school and many of the people I know get co-op easily and are hired by a big 4.
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Who cares what your parents think. Do what you want, it's not them that has to deal with waking up every morning only to go to a crappy job. You're in North America the land of opportunity, screw social stigmas.
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phenakami wrote: after telling them that most of the power engineering type work will probably be shift type work they were disappointed.
phenakami wrote:


My family has always wanted me to work in a more "prestigious" type of work...My mother owns a restaurant in my hometown
!!!

Also there isn't anything prestigious about accounting. Not that I think there's anything wrong with it, but it's a pretty average middle class job.
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rugbykit wrote: College is first come, first serve for a lot of programs. I have friends who applied after the equal consideration date and were waitlisted, even with fantastic GPAs.
That was their mistake. The equal consideration deadline for competitive programs is and always is Feb 1st. All apps up to that date are processed according to marks, supplemental materials if required, etc. After the equal consideration deadline, your app is looked at after those that met the deadline and only if there are spots open. For competitive programs, that really means, past the deadline, don't waste your money on an app as you're not getting in...
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Right, just to clarify.. I'm assuming anyone who is serious about getting into a program is going to apply on time.
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Have you considered healthcare instead?

I think a career as a healthcare professional like respiratory therapist or ultrasound tech is a lot more prestigious than accountant...why not shoot for something like that? I think NAIT/SAIT offer similar programs. Excellent career prospects once you're done too.
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CSK'sMom wrote: That was their mistake. The equal consideration deadline for competitive programs is and always is Feb 1st. All apps up to that date are processed according to marks, supplemental materials if required, etc. After the equal consideration deadline, your app is looked at after those that met the deadline and only if there are spots open. For competitive programs, that really means, past the deadline, don't waste your money on an app as you're not getting in...
Yeah, these friends were people who thought they'd have no problems getting a job after graduation, realized they were wrong and applied for college at the last minute thinking they'd be a shoe-in since their GPAs were great. It's surprising to me how many people try this.
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CSK'sMom wrote: That was their mistake. The equal consideration deadline for competitive programs is and always is Feb 1st. All apps up to that date are processed according to marks, supplemental materials if required, etc. After the equal consideration deadline, your app is looked at after those that met the deadline and only if there are spots open. For competitive programs, that really means, past the deadline, don't waste your money on an app as you're not getting in...
I'm not too sure what the equal consideration date is at nait and sait. For nait I applied on the day the program was open for applications in early October and for sait I applied a couple days after registration was open in late october. The only good news is that I am accepted but two years is a long wait.
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You would be surprised how much those mining camp workers make. I am a bit biased because I am a skilled trade worker but whenever asked I always advice young people to take up skilled trades.
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If you don't know what you want to do or be, don't go to college or University. It's no wonder so many people are walking out of University with no job prospects... there were none going in! Might as well paint "sucker" on your forehead and go to a job-fair.

Figure out what you want to do and where you want to do it - then go ask the person doing it what education you need to get their job, or get the position their job will likely evolve into in the next 5 years.

Ask what school/program that company dumps dollars into in program partnerships and support. Go to that school. Another school might give you a great education, but if the employer of choice supports school "A", they are not going to consider someone from school "B".
School "A" has their donated materials, School "A" has their curriculum input via an advisory committee, School "A" probably has current or ex-employees teaching the program.
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hystat wrote: If you don't know what you want to do or be, don't go to college or University. It's no wonder so many people are walking out of University with no job prospects... there were none going in! Might as well paint "sucker" on your forehead and go to a job-fair.
Ok, I have a similar situation. Even though I am enrolling in a college with good high school grades for course credit in math and sciences at adult day school, how can I find out what I want to do? So far course load at college is bearable. May I have any good advice? I have enough people around me telling me what to do or for the worse, feeding me with false or unintentionally bad information.
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hystat wrote: If you don't know what you want to do or be, don't go to college or University. It's no wonder so many people are walking out of University with no job prospects... there were none going in! Might as well paint "sucker" on your forehead and go to a job-fair.
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