Command start with push button ignition

peteryorkuca wrote: ↑ Most cars, once started using push button, can be driven without the fob while car complains lack of fob in the proximity. If you had the fob in your pocket and with the car running and went into a store for few minutes, thief could take your car, just like if you had your car running with the key in the ignition.

And because your auto starter is third party and not oem equipment, it probably couldn't read the fob if it was inside the car anyway, to not turn off the car.

drtmrcht wrote: ↑ it's all about security.. the car doesn't look for the fob after it's running, so to prevent theft, the car turns off when the door is open. I would say half of the prox keys are like this. (Toyota/Honda) usually don't have take over.

CNeufeld wrote: ↑ I love the push button start on my Highlander. And my remote start works the same ways as yours does (Autostart cell-based system). As did my old Camry with a factory Toyota remote start (also push button start).

I think the cars need to be able to be driven without the fob because you can still drive them when the battery dies on the fob. Your instruction manual should cover the technique, I think. Which makes sense, because you'd hate for your car to be incapacitated if the battery in your fob dies overnight and you can't drive anywhere to get a new one. Or if your fob gets wet and the battery/electronics get toasted.

At least, that's the story I heard from Toyota when I complained about. I don't think it's a proximity thing... The car is smart enough to detect whether a key is inside the car or outside the car (I can't lock the car with my finger when my GF leaves her keys in her purse in the car), so it can obviously differentiate between the locations. And if I leave the car running, but exit the car, it can detect that and make rude noises to let me know I've done that.

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WikkiWikki wrote: ↑ Yes searching online looks like many are like this. And I see why it is, but shame there wasnt a button you can press on the FOB or something, or a combo to make this not turn off.

peteryorkuca wrote: ↑ On Nissan Altima with factory auto starter, you use your fob to turn the car on. When you and fob is near the car, you open the door while the car is still running, but need to press the start button to drive away.

CNeufeld wrote: ↑I love the push button start on my Highlander. And my remote start works the same ways as yours does (Autostart cell-based system). As did my old Camry with a factory Toyota remote start (also push button start).

I think the cars need to be able to be driven without the fob because you can still drive them when the battery dies on the fob. Your instruction manual should cover the technique, I think. Which makes sense, because you'd hate for your car to be incapacitated if the battery in your fob dies overnight and you can't drive anywhere to get a new one. Or if your fob gets wet and the battery/electronics get toasted.

At least, that's the story I heard from Toyota when I complained about. I don't think it's a proximity thing... The car is smart enough to detect whether a key is inside the car or outside the car (I can't lock the car with my finger when my GF leaves her keys in her purse in the car), so it can obviously differentiate between the locations. And if I leave the car running, but exit the car, it can detect that and make rude noises to let me know I've done that.

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WikkiWikki wrote: ↑
Makes sense, but with all this technology, this is something that cant be done. I guess it would depend on the command start as well. Like I said it came with the vehicle, I just found it odd this is the way it works.

BeaverLiquor wrote: ↑ My key has an rfid chip as a fail safe and there’s a place in the centre armrest to place it so the car can read it.



Only way to do what you want it to place a key in the car which would mean anyone could just drive off with your car.

CNeufeld wrote: ↑ It's probably not controlled by Autostart, but built into the vehicle. See my note about the factory installed system on my Camry... But each manufacturer may be different.

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vkizzle wrote: ↑ On my Ford Explorer with factory autostart, the intellignet keyfob has to be inside the vehicle and the push button pressed before being allowed to shift out of part and drive off.
Also, being a Ford vehicle that is also used for law enforcement, I have enabled a safety feature that won't allow you to shift out of park (while the vehicle is running); without the keyfob inside the vehicle...love this feature!

drtmrcht wrote: ↑ it's all about liability. the aftermarket companies don't want to get sued because somebody remote started their car while in Walmart / somehow pressed unlock on their 2way remote 3000ft away, and a theif just happened to be beside that car and drove away. (These cars only look for the key once, Toyota / Honda / Mitsi)

Nissans are the exception and you have 45 seconds from hitting unlock to complete takeover. (get inside / press the start, while the car looks for the key).