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Condo garage door / Vehicle rooftop collision

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Condo garage door / Vehicle rooftop collision

Hello, first time writing a thread in a hope to get some advice or help.
It's an accident happened to my friend, but my English is slightly better than him, so I'm posting this thread instead of him.
I will try to describe the accident itself and the current situation as much as I can.

So, my buddy was entering into condo garage (his wife with him), and the garage door was already fully opened from another vehicle exiting. Even then, he stopped, pressed his fob, and proceeded. Halfway through the door, however, the garage door closed on top of his car, damaging the rooftop and the windshield cracked, too.

He took a picture and notified the management immediately, but they said their management is not responsible in any way, and from what their facility team says, somehow the camera was not working at the time of incident, and there is no fob activity recorded as well.
They are saying my buddy owes them for the repair cost of the garage door instead.

Any thought on this? Thanks in advance for anyone with interest and your reply! :)
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mapledelivery wrote: Halfway through the door, however, the garage door closed on top of his car, damaging the rooftop and the windshield cracked, too.

Should have a sensor on each side of garage door that detect if a car is under the garage door or not.

Is the sensor not working ?

If sensor not working as intended, then could be a condo management fault for not fixing it. Only way to find out is to wait until the door close and put your hand on the sensor and see if the door stop closing. If door not closing record it by video as proof.
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Friend had dashcam?

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deadtorights wrote: Is the sensor not working ?
The weird thing is, after hitting the rooftop, the door went back up. And during the entire time my friend taking picture, etc it stayed up there.
My guess is the angle of the sensor is narrower than one might think.
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Cheapo-Findo wrote: Friend had dashcam?
Unfortunately, he doesn't. This is where all his trouble comes from. No witness, no footage whatsoever for both parties.

In my understanding, wouldn't the management have to prove themselves that it was his car that damaged the door if they want him to pay for its repair cost?
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mapledelivery wrote: The weird thing is, after hitting the rooftop, the door went back up. And during the entire time my friend taking picture, etc it stayed up there.
My guess is the angle of the sensor is narrower than one might think.
Only dashcam footage can help your friend. Otherwise, your freind's insurance will be on the hook.
mapledelivery wrote: In my understanding, wouldn't the management have to prove themselves that it was his car that damaged the door if they want him to pay for its repair cost?
Well, you did tell them already and admitted to it.
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mapledelivery wrote: Unfortunately, he doesn't. This is where all his trouble comes from. No witness, no footage whatsoever for both parties.

In my understanding, wouldn't the management have to prove themselves that it was his car that damaged the door if they want him to pay for its repair cost?
You most likely have to prove the door was faulty. Because usually its bozos driving into garage doors damaging it. And safe to say very rarely the other way around. Not to say its impossible.

How do you prove you didnt damage it? Its the most likely scenario
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It can happen. If it’s his own condo, then maybe need to claim insurance. Would most likely gotten out and taken pictures of the door on top of my car and have lawyer write them a letter. The management will change its tune real quick.

This is why Naple is not smart. Should had waited for the door to close back then open it again after. This is why living in condo sux. Never again will I move into condo. Annoying neighbors, crappy drivers, stupid garage doors.
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Xtrema wrote: Well, you did tell them already and admitted to it.
Yes, that is true.
I guess I was only focusing on the fact that how the door and his vehicle damaged each other.
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UrbanPoet wrote: How do you prove you didnt damage it? Its the most likely scenario
Hmm... Then it's gonna be a long shot for my buddy without some professional help, I guess.
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mapledelivery wrote: The weird thing is, after hitting the rooftop, the door went back up. And during the entire time my friend taking picture, etc it stayed up there.
My guess is the angle of the sensor is narrower than one might think.
The door went up because it over torqued the motor, to which it would reverse.
There should be a set of photoeyes down low on either side of the door opening.
Post some pics of the doorway and photos taken when the incident occurred.
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deadtorights wrote: Should have a sensor on each side of garage door that detect if a car is under the garage door or not.

Is the sensor not working ?

If sensor not working as intended, then could be a condo management fault for not fixing it. Only way to find out is to wait until the door close and put your hand on the sensor and see if the door stop closing. If door not closing record it by video as proof.
regardless of sensor or not, condo isn't responsible as the sensor is a "Backup" safety device, residents have to use the keyfob to to open it which OP said his friend did use and should've been recorded in the system.

i was on Board at one of my condos and this comes up often where people try to tailgate car in front or "rush" before door comes down either because they can't be bothered to use their fob or they don't have one ...and we can tell if fob was pressed from the car that got hit.

but if condo claims no record of fob (video won't do anything since it doesn't capture whether fob is pressed), then ya have to go through car insurance and let them deal with it
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StatsGuy wrote: i was on Board at one of my condos and this comes up often where people try to tailgate car in front or "rush" before door comes down either because they can't be bothered to use their fob or they don't have one ...and we can tell if fob was pressed from the car that got hit.
Most likely scenario. Tailgater B&E is a huge problem here with condos.
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mapledelivery wrote: Hello, first time writing a thread in a hope to get some advice or help.
It's an accident happened to my friend, but my English is slightly better than him, so I'm posting this thread instead of him.
I will try to describe the accident itself and the current situation as much as I can.

So, my buddy was entering into condo garage (his wife with him), and the garage door was already fully opened from another vehicle exiting. Even then, he stopped, pressed his fob, and proceeded. Halfway through the door, however, the garage door closed on top of his car, damaging the rooftop and the windshield cracked, too.

He took a picture and notified the management immediately, but they said their management is not responsible in any way, and from what their facility team says, somehow the camera was not working at the time of incident, and there is no fob activity recorded as well.
They are saying my buddy owes them for the repair cost of the garage door instead.

Any thought on this? Thanks in advance for anyone with interest and your reply! :)
StatsGuy wrote: regardless of sensor or not, condo isn't responsible as the sensor is a "Backup" safety device, residents have to use the keyfob to to open it which OP said his friend did use and should've been recorded in the system.

i was on Board at one of my condos and this comes up often where people try to tailgate car in front or "rush" before door comes down either because they can't be bothered to use their fob or they don't have one ...and we can tell if fob was pressed from the car that got hit.

but if condo claims no record of fob (video won't do anything since it doesn't capture whether fob is pressed), then ya have to go through car insurance and let them deal with it
Ohh!!! And the plot thickens... So this is probably what happened.
OP. I think your friend might not be telling the full story.
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mapledelivery wrote: Hello, first time writing a thread in a hope to get some advice or help.
It's an accident happened to my friend, but my English is slightly better than him, so I'm posting this thread instead of him.
I will try to describe the accident itself and the current situation as much as I can.

So, my buddy was entering into condo garage (his wife with him), and the garage door was already fully opened from another vehicle exiting. Even then, he stopped, pressed his fob, and proceeded. Halfway through the door, however, the garage door closed on top of his car, damaging the rooftop and the windshield cracked, too.

He took a picture and notified the management immediately, but they said their management is not responsible in any way, and from what their facility team says, somehow the camera was not working at the time of incident, and there is no fob activity recorded as well.
They are saying my buddy owes them for the repair cost of the garage door instead.

Any thought on this? Thanks in advance for anyone with interest and your reply! :)
Same thing happened to my Bro-in-Law.
Lucky for him Garage Door hit his front Hood & Front Bumper. minimal damage.
Condo Management said they are NOT responsible. People use Garage Door at their OWN Risk. I think there was a Sign stating this. He didn't get any compensation.
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As much as I would like to be on my buddy's side, the possibility of the compensation is getting thinner and thinner. :(

Yet his landlord told my friend that there was a similar incident with the previous tenant who got the compensation from them.
At the same time, management says there was NO such incident before his, so it's getting really confused...Thinking Face
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UrbanPoet wrote: Ohh!!! And the plot thickens... So this is probably what happened.
OP. I think your friend might not be telling the full story.
Could be. I'm just listening his story only and I do want to trust him, so I may not be 100% objective (which clearly isn't helping)
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StatsGuy wrote: regardless of sensor or not, condo isn't responsible as the sensor is a "Backup" safety device, residents have to use the keyfob to to open it which OP said his friend did use and should've been recorded in the system.
This may clear things up a bit and I can kinda see where they're standing at.
Because possibly there will be a clause somewhere in the condo rulebook about the responsibility and liability of using the garage....

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