All-Clad Essentials Nonstick Cookware Set, 13-piece $399.99

i personally would only go with 3/5 layers stainless steel All-Clad..

We bought these and are happy with the quality - I wished there were more sauce pans included (only 1). Also, they don't sell smaller sauce pans separately.

I know many swear by All-Clad, but the Cuisinart Multi-Clad seems like a deal at $165.
Not sure how much difference there really is if both are three-ply.

kingofwale wrote: ↑ i personally would only go with 3/5 layers stainless steel All-Clad..

mee too, we got lagostina 5 ply set from costco for $299... some people prefers nonstick, my wife prefer nonstick frying pans to ss

blindemboss wrote: ↑ I know many swear by All-Clad, but the Cuisinart Multi-Clad seems like a deal at $165.
Not sure how much difference there really is if both are three-ply.

Not a good comparison, two different categories. Also, looking at cuisinart reviews with bent bottoms does not make it a good buy.

And, dont forget, all clad has lifetime warranty for its cookware.

Same price as instore, was tempted but not 3 or 5 ply so I passed.

kingofwale wrote: ↑ i personally would only go with 3/5 layers stainless steel All-Clad..

Sorry bit of a noob here with kitchenware, do more people prefer 3ply or 5 ply stainless steel over non stick? if so why? is it just a durability thing or does the non stick feature not matter much at all?

gena_mak wrote: ↑ Not a good comparison, two different categories. Also, looking at cuisinart reviews with bent bottoms does not make it a good buy.

And, dont forget, all clad has lifetime warranty for its cookware.

Perhaps, but that's just one reviewer.
What about the 3 or 5 ply Lagostina's ? Don't they have a 50 yr warranty?

I'm sure All-Clads are great products, but 2x the price better?

blindemboss wrote: ↑ Perhaps, but that's just one reviewer.
What about the 3 or 5 ply Lagostina's ? Don't they have a 50 yr warranty?

I'm sure All-Clads are great products, but 2x the price better?

I was not referring to costco reviews. Before I got lagostina, I looked into different set brands and, cuisinart due to its price attracted my attention. I spent sometime looking into this and similar sets and decided against it because of very high number of reviews indicating this defect, making it useless on electric stoves.

Also, I am a firm believer that in most (not all) cases you get what you pay for. You CAN get lucky and get something expensive at bargain price and, that I would consider hot deal.
Also, IMO having lifetime warranty worth a lot these days. As an example, just this year my friend replaced one of her 9 years old all clad pots at no cost due to separated handle.

If the same configuration of pots and pans as my lagostina was available for all clad for under $1000 I would go for it, just dont need multiple stainless frying pans.

Not shilling for this particular set as I am not a fan of nonstick at all. Just thinking that someone will find it useful. And, I am a fan of good old brands that still stand behind their products enough to dare to offer lifetime warranty.

I have the D3 SS set and I'm totally happy with them. However I did managed to see one of these non-stick pots (the 2.5L pan - https://www.all-clad.com/ha1-hard-anodi ... quart.html) at the local Winners for like $30 so I grabbed it. It's been great and I'd get the entire non stick set but I'd only use one or two.

Every time I go to Winners, I always scour the pan aisle for All Clad stuff

Gonad wrote: ↑ I have the D3 SS set and I'm totally happy with them. However I did managed to see one of these non-stick pots (the 2.5L pan - https://www.all-clad.com/ha1-hard-anodi ... quart.html) at the local Winners for like $30 so I grabbed it. It's been great and I'd get the entire non stick set but I'd only use one or two.

Every time I go to Winners, I always scour the pan aisle for All Clad stuff

$30? Good deal

opdollar wrote: ↑ Sorry bit of a noob here with kitchenware, do more people prefer 3ply or 5 ply stainless steel over non stick? if so why? is it just a durability thing or does the non stick feature not matter much at all?

Reviews for AllClad non-stick (I think from Serious Eats and others) say it lasts just as long as cheaper pans, which is to say, not very long. https://www.seriouseats.com/2017/02/why ... -best.html

A good stainless pan will last a lifetime, non-stick will last as long as the coating does. And you don't want non-stick for things like meat where you need the fond to make a decent pan sauce. You can safely heat stainless to a much higher temperature than non stick. As long as the pan is thick enough it will take the heat.
This article talks about why a non-stick set isn't a great idea - https://www.seriouseats.com/2019/10/sto ... stick.html

Personally I wouldn't get a non-stick set. I have an fully clad stainless set (Sam's Club brand from when they were here) for steaming, making chili or soup, boiling pasta, etc ; a few cast iron pans for searing meat, roasting potatoes and generally most things that go from stove to oven; and lagostina non stick skillets for eggs and crepes. I replace these every 2-3 years when the coating starts to wear.

If you are starting out, get the best quality stainless you can afford, a cast iron skillet and a non stick stillet. Then buy pieces from there, like an enameled dutch oven, etc.

I know a lot of people say not to buy sets since you're locked into those sizes, but I find it's better, and cheaper, to start with the set and then add pieces as you find you need them.

These do not have steel base !

Whereas the B1and HA1 variants available in BB&B and TheBay comes with steel base.

As per their website - Stainless-steel bonded base is for durability and induction compatibility

As per usual, don't buy a set of non-stick cookware, no matter how many diamonds, ceramic, or meterorites they use they all degrade with time. Washing and the use of utensils that can scratch teflon or the heating of teflon repeatedly will degrade the surface. Treat nonstick pans as disposable and look for any cheapish pan for eggs and whatnot and utilize stainless steel for pots as they will last a lifetime.

All-clad is fantastic and the dream here (I currently just have their 12 inch frying pan) but really they aren't substantially better than the competition, personally I would probably go for the kirkland 5 ply set if I have a choice, I have heard some issues about warping but its Costco so they would always take it back...

Don't mean to thread jack here but since everyone recommends stainless steel over non stick, how's this Logastina set? https://www.thebay.com/product/lagostin ... lsrc=aw.ds