LG OLED 65" A1 $1,589.99 (Costco in-store)

ES_Revenge wrote: ↑ LOL what? Not everyone is the same age or at the same position/point in life as you.

I mean sure I don't have any time for videogames myself either but that doesn't mean I somehow presume everyone else doesn't either.

ths333 wrote: ↑ Just picked one up from the Overlea Costco. There were about 3 left. Thanks OP!

speartongue wrote: ↑ most of you know about rtings, but for the sake of backing my opinion/comment, here is a comparison done by them of the A1 and C1
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare ... #main-diff

you can clearly see the C1 is more than just 120hz for its general superiority of a tv set, but what i'd like to bring your attention to is the App Smoothness category that you can find if you scroll down all the way to Apps and Features section, its the 2nd line of that category. Average

why im telling you this, is that most people wont really see the difference in picture and color gradients, depth and volume, as well as the general audio quality of a TV, unless they did something like Sony did with the A8H where they used the glass as a way to amplify the sound.

but what people WILL inevitably notice, is when a TV is unreactive or laggy.

I just returned an LG C1 today, and own multiple Sony TVs running Google/Android TV, and what made me return the C1 was that it took forever to change the brightness on it... while on my android TVs its less than 2. Picture was great, sound was good, remote was more than fine, but the UI's reactivity/sluggishness was not just annoying, it was irritating.

If you use the comparator and put any android TV and you generally get "very smooth" in that App Smoothness and 2s to change backlight, vs 6-7 for an LG.

Wish I knew that before buying, so might or might not apply to you, hopefully this helps.

hchai wrote: ↑ One thing money can't buy is time though.

dieslow wrote: ↑ He never said that he was spending his whole life playing games ! Playing 30 minutes per week is still playing games ... occasionnally ! But I get your point ... getting older we have more money to spend on things we wanted when we were young but no time to use them ! Such is life I guess.

hchai wrote: ↑ People still play games nowdays? how can they have so much time to burn?

dieslow wrote: ↑ He never said that he was spending his whole life playing games ! Playing 30 minutes per week is still playing games ... occasionnally ! But I get your point ... getting older we have more money to spend on things we wanted when we were young but no time to use them ! Such is life I guess.

hieidarkdragon wrote: ↑ Save money and buy the c1 instead.

Benetton wrote: ↑ Went to costco to get the C1 but the sales advisor was genuine and told me that C1 is getting so many burn in complaints. He said go for sony X90J 4K for a longer run. So ended up getting 65 inch X90J.

redflagdealsguy wrote: ↑ Store specific clearance may not necessarily read 97.

Kevcorm wrote: ↑ Some companies focus almost solely on what rtings test for (tcl, hisense), other companies actually focus on a good customer experience.

It reminds me of when amd could make their video cards seem better value than nvidia, but anyone that used both cards could tell nvidia felt much smoother. Turns out nvidia had great frame times and AMD had terrible ones, something reviewers didnt point out or even understand until nvidia showed them what it was.

hchai wrote: ↑ People still play games nowdays? how can they have so much time to burn?

RaidZero wrote: ↑ And which exactly are the features of a TV that Rtings is not checking and make for a good customer experience?



So you remember July 1995 as well?
Joke aside, this post is full of factual inaccuracies, to put it mildly. Since I was reviewing computer parts (video cards including) when the first 3D ones came out, I can tell you that no one was comparing Nvidia with AMD (technically, ATI). 3Dfx was the king of 3D games at that time.
By the time Nvidia became a player, all reviewers that saw the insides of a PC (except maybe, ahem, Verge) knew how to test the most important feature of a 3D graphics card, speed.

najibs wrote: ↑ I have 4 kids, a wife and a full time job and I still make time for games. There's something called "Time Management"

Kevcorm wrote: ↑ Im not sure what, but I can look at tvs they praise and see that many of them aren't that great just by watching content on them.

it wasnt 1995 when nvidia brought up frametimes... they released the fcat benchmark tool in 2013. You should look into it so you know what Im talking about.
Anyway, my point was before 2013 I had no idea about frametimes, but noticed nvidia cards played games better than amd at the time (even when amd had better framerates). I had no idea why or how, but things just looked and felt better on nvidia. The same is likely for tvs. Digital foundry talks about frame times quite a bit, bad frame pacing is the reason some games feel like they are stuttering.